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Attributes | |
ACN | 509941 |
Time | |
Date | 200105 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mia.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 300 msl bound upper : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : mia.tower tower : bec.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 9l |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 14486 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 509941 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : localizer (indication) other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Navigational Facility |
Primary Problem | Navigational Facility |
Narrative:
I believe there is a problem with the runway 9L localizer at mia. I have made several of the approaches in the last few weeks and have not been able to get an acceptable signal. I have made several comments to ATC and I believe it has not been an aircraft or pilot induced problem. I have gotten an excess deviation annunciation on the HUD every time I have attempted to use the HUD on only this runway. Below 500 ft the localizer goes every which way but loose. I have not written up the problem prior to this because I was uncertain if I had been the cause of the problem. Now I am sure the problem is ground based. If the weather was IMC at mia - I will not accept a low visibility runway 9L ILS. Thanks. Callback conversation with reporter reveals the following information: reporter stated, he is getting the word out to his fellow crew members about his experiences with the runway 9L ILS localizer. He reiterated that the deviation occurred whether aircraft were moving on the airport or not, i.e. ILS critical area. He also stated, he would not accept a low visibility runway 9L ILS approach. ATC, when advised of the deviations seemed unaware of a problem, but would check into it.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B738 CREW EXPERIENCED EXCESSIVE LOCALIZER DEVIATION WHILE FLYING A 'VFR' ILS TO RWY 9 LEFT AT MIA.
Narrative: I BELIEVE THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE RWY 9L LOC AT MIA. I HAVE MADE SEVERAL OF THE APPROACHES IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET AN ACCEPTABLE SIGNAL. I HAVE MADE SEVERAL COMMENTS TO ATC AND I BELIEVE IT HAS NOT BEEN AN ACFT OR PILOT INDUCED PROBLEM. I HAVE GOTTEN AN EXCESS DEV ANNUNCIATION ON THE HUD EVERY TIME I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO USE THE HUD ON ONLY THIS RWY. BELOW 500 FT THE LOCALIZER GOES EVERY WHICH WAY BUT LOOSE. I HAVE NOT WRITTEN UP THE PROBLEM PRIOR TO THIS BECAUSE I WAS UNCERTAIN IF I HAD BEEN THE CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM. NOW I AM SURE THE PROBLEM IS GROUND BASED. IF THE WEATHER WAS IMC AT MIA - I WILL NOT ACCEPT A LOW VISIBILITY RWY 9L ILS. THANKS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH REPORTER REVEALS THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED, HE IS GETTING THE WORD OUT TO HIS FELLOW CREW MEMBERS ABOUT HIS EXPERIENCES WITH THE RWY 9L ILS LOC. HE REITERATED THAT THE DEVIATION OCCURRED WHETHER ACFT WERE MOVING ON THE ARPT OR NOT, I.E. ILS CRITICAL AREA. HE ALSO STATED, HE WOULD NOT ACCEPT A LOW VISIBILITY RWY 9L ILS APPROACH. ATC, WHEN ADVISED OF THE DEVIATIONS SEEMED UNAWARE OF A PROBLEM, BUT WOULD CHECK INTO IT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.