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Attributes | |
ACN | 510204 |
Time | |
Date | 200105 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : efd.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 3600 flight time type : 1100 |
ASRS Report | 510204 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While taxiing for takeoff at efd at XA00LCL on taxi D, we were given many different options for takeoff runway based on winds. I elected to still use runway 04 since winds were right x-winds 11 KTS. During the radio calls I got the impression we were ok onto the runway. However, no position and hold call was given to us. I understand the phraseology of 'taxi to runway 04' doesn't mean cleared onto the runway. However, the tone of our conversation led us to believe the runway was ours. Obviously our misunderstanding. We visually cleared the approach and departure ends and proceeded onto the displaced threshold for back taxi. When I asked if we were cleared for 'back taxi' is when the miscommunication became evident. I said we'd clear the runway and the controller told us to position and hold, but that we were on a closed portion of the runway. We were, however, positioning on the temporarily displaced threshold, well clear of the construction. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the runway in question was involved in construction that made the first 1000 ft unusable and require a taxi back to get use of the maximum length. There was a lot of back and forth conversation between the tower and the aircraft relative to the runway to be used. There was no other traffic at the airport. The reporter notices that generally military towers do not give as much specific direction as FAA controllers. He said this may have contributed to taxiing onto the runway without clearance, along with the fact there was no other traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AIRLINE CREW IS DISTRACTED BY AIRPORT CONSTRUCTION, CHANGING WIND CONDITIONS AND PERFORMANCE ISSUES CAUSED BY A SHORTENED RWY. IT LEADS TO A TAXI ONTO THE ACTIVE RWY WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: WHILE TAXIING FOR TAKEOFF AT EFD AT XA00LCL ON TAXI D, WE WERE GIVEN MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR TAKEOFF RWY BASED ON WINDS. I ELECTED TO STILL USE RWY 04 SINCE WINDS WERE R X-WINDS 11 KTS. DURING THE RADIO CALLS I GOT THE IMPRESSION WE WERE OK ONTO THE RWY. HOWEVER, NO POS AND HOLD CALL WAS GIVEN TO US. I UNDERSTAND THE PHRASEOLOGY OF 'TAXI TO RWY 04' DOESN'T MEAN CLRED ONTO THE RWY. HOWEVER, THE TONE OF OUR CONVERSATION LED US TO BELIEVE THE RWY WAS OURS. OBVIOUSLY OUR MISUNDERSTANDING. WE VISUALLY CLRED THE APCH AND DEP ENDS AND PROCEEDED ONTO THE DISPLACED THRESHOLD FOR BACK TAXI. WHEN I ASKED IF WE WERE CLEARED FOR 'BACK TAXI' IS WHEN THE MISCOMMUNICATION BECAME EVIDENT. I SAID WE'D CLR THE RWY AND THE CTLR TOLD US TO POS AND HOLD, BUT THAT WE WERE ON A CLOSED PORTION OF THE RWY. WE WERE, HOWEVER, POSITIONING ON THE TEMPORARILY DISPLACED THRESHOLD, WELL CLR OF THE CONSTRUCTION. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RWY IN QUESTION WAS INVOLVED IN CONSTRUCTION THAT MADE THE FIRST 1000 FT UNUSABLE AND REQUIRE A TAXI BACK TO GET USE OF THE MAXIMUM LENGTH. THERE WAS A LOT OF BACK AND FORTH CONVERSATION BETWEEN THE TWR AND THE ACFT RELATIVE TO THE RWY TO BE USED. THERE WAS NO OTHER TFC AT THE ARPT. THE RPTR NOTICES THAT GENERALLY MILITARY TWRS DO NOT GIVE AS MUCH SPECIFIC DIRECTION AS FAA CTLRS. HE SAID THIS MAY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO TAXIING ONTO THE RWY WITHOUT CLRNC, ALONG WITH THE FACT THERE WAS NO OTHER TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.