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Large transport air carrier flight crew is questioned by zan via situation FSS as to cancellation of local IFR clearance to allow another inbound IFR aircraft.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 511970 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200105 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zan.artcc |
| State Reference | AK |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 140 flight time total : 9800 |
| ASRS Report | 511970 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : became reoriented |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Intended to fly VFR to destination 30 NM away, but asked FSS to get us an IFR clearance just in case we ran into poor WX en route. Did not intend to activate IFR unless necessary. Approximately 8 mins after takeoff, called FSS to let them know we did not intend to use IFR clearance. Both departure and destination airfields were non-controled with FSS remote frequency available. After landing at destination, ATC informed us that after picking up IFR clearance, the airspace is ours and we need to let them know sooner if we don't intend on using the IFR clearance. From now on, I will call ATC and inform them of our intentions much sooner after takeoff so as to 'free up' the airspace for other IFR inbound traffic -- if any exist.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT ACR FLT CREW IS QUESTIONED BY ZAN VIA SIT FSS AS TO CANCELLATION OF LCL IFR CLRNC TO ALLOW ANOTHER INBOUND IFR ACFT.
Narrative: INTENDED TO FLY VFR TO DEST 30 NM AWAY, BUT ASKED FSS TO GET US AN IFR CLRNC JUST IN CASE WE RAN INTO POOR WX ENRTE. DID NOT INTEND TO ACTIVATE IFR UNLESS NECESSARY. APPROX 8 MINS AFTER TKOF, CALLED FSS TO LET THEM KNOW WE DID NOT INTEND TO USE IFR CLRNC. BOTH DEP AND DEST AIRFIELDS WERE NON-CTLED WITH FSS REMOTE FREQ AVAILABLE. AFTER LNDG AT DEST, ATC INFORMED US THAT AFTER PICKING UP IFR CLRNC, THE AIRSPACE IS OURS AND WE NEED TO LET THEM KNOW SOONER IF WE DON'T INTEND ON USING THE IFR CLRNC. FROM NOW ON, I WILL CALL ATC AND INFORM THEM OF OUR INTENTIONS MUCH SOONER AFTER TKOF SO AS TO 'FREE UP' THE AIRSPACE FOR OTHER IFR INBOUND TFC -- IF ANY EXIST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.