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Attributes | |
ACN | 514861 |
Time | |
Date | 200106 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : den.airport |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl single value : 9000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : d01.tracon tower : den.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B777 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time type : 135 |
ASRS Report | 514861 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were on a 350 degree vector, downwind, for runway 16 at den at 9000 ft, 210 KTS assigned. Approach controller gave us a turn to 080 degrees and cleared us for visual approach runway 16 to follow B777. We were high and fast and the turn put us 3 mi from leets. We changed over to tower and the controller advised us not to go through runway 16 centerline due to traffic on runway 17R. We were already passing through the centerline in a 30 degree bank. I increased bank to 35 degrees as I was now concerned about traffic to my left. Bank angle ended up between 35-40 degrees. We overshot centerline by about 1/4 mi. I was able to establish a stabilized approach at about 1500 ft AGL and the landing was uneventful. Also, the winds at altitude and on ground were strong from the west. I called the TRACON supervisor after landing and gave him my input on the controling we received and our inability to not overshoot runway 16 because of how tight, fast, and high the controller had us. Not accepting the clearance would have caused us to fly through runway 17L/right on heading of 080 degrees. I had to increase bank beyond normal and ended up at 35-40 degrees to avoid traffic runway 17R.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B777 HAS TO EXECUTE EXCEPTIONAL TURN IN ORDER TO NOT CONFLICT WITH ACFT ON PARALLEL APCH RESULTING FROM D01 CTLR TECHNIQUE.
Narrative: WE WERE ON A 350 DEG VECTOR, DOWNWIND, FOR RWY 16 AT DEN AT 9000 FT, 210 KTS ASSIGNED. APCH CTLR GAVE US A TURN TO 080 DEGS AND CLRED US FOR VISUAL APCH RWY 16 TO FOLLOW B777. WE WERE HIGH AND FAST AND THE TURN PUT US 3 MI FROM LEETS. WE CHANGED OVER TO TWR AND THE CTLR ADVISED US NOT TO GO THROUGH RWY 16 CTRLINE DUE TO TFC ON RWY 17R. WE WERE ALREADY PASSING THROUGH THE CTRLINE IN A 30 DEG BANK. I INCREASED BANK TO 35 DEGS AS I WAS NOW CONCERNED ABOUT TFC TO MY L. BANK ANGLE ENDED UP BTWN 35-40 DEGS. WE OVERSHOT CTRLINE BY ABOUT 1/4 MI. I WAS ABLE TO ESTABLISH A STABILIZED APCH AT ABOUT 1500 FT AGL AND THE LNDG WAS UNEVENTFUL. ALSO, THE WINDS AT ALT AND ON GND WERE STRONG FROM THE W. I CALLED THE TRACON SUPVR AFTER LNDG AND GAVE HIM MY INPUT ON THE CTLING WE RECEIVED AND OUR INABILITY TO NOT OVERSHOOT RWY 16 BECAUSE OF HOW TIGHT, FAST, AND HIGH THE CTLR HAD US. NOT ACCEPTING THE CLRNC WOULD HAVE CAUSED US TO FLY THROUGH RWY 17L/R ON HDG OF 080 DEGS. I HAD TO INCREASE BANK BEYOND NORMAL AND ENDED UP AT 35-40 DEGS TO AVOID TFC RWY 17R.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.