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Attributes | |
ACN | 514918 |
Time | |
Date | 200106 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
State Reference | CT |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Twin Bonanza 50 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 4253 flight time type : 453 |
ASRS Report | 514918 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe inflight encounter : weather maintenance problem : non compliance with mel non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather Aircraft ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I received 2 WX briefings from the williamsport FSS. Ms Y said that 'the WX between avp and fok was not recommended for VFR flight. However, there is a window of opportunity for VFR with the departure time after XA00 and landing after xboo.' she was exactly right. I was able to stay clear of clouds all the way to bridgeport. It was a short flight across long island sound to fok. I was then informed that fok was IFR and would not let me in VFR. They were 700 ft broken. I then asked for an IFR clearance, expecting an IFR pick-up. The controller informed me 'I must file with FSS.' I then asked for a good frequency (FSS) and got it with some trepidation on the controller's part. I finally got the IFR from approach. He started vectoring me in the climb to 4000 ft. I noticed that my directional gyro precessed and tried to set it to the compass but had trouble because of turbulence. He then told me to turn left to 155 degrees, but it was closer to turn. I followed his instruction and turned left. This left me disoriented. He then told me to go to the new haven VOR, another frequency change. At this point, I popped out into severe VFR just as FSS predicted. I told the controller to cancel IFR and descended VFR to 2000 ft, the MSA. At that point he vectored me to chester airport and asked me to call him. He asked if I got a WX briefing, I said yes. He called the williamsport FSS to see if we did and they answered I did but VFR was not recommended, but said nothing about the window of opportunity. The controller said 'we were the only VFR flight in the area,' and that obviously annoyed him. I do believe that the VFR only restr on the ferry permit can be unsafe in sits like this. It would be far safer to file IFR for this trip and new york approach would know that I was coming and there would be fewer vectors that are disorienting.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT OF A BEECH TWIN BONANZA ON A MAINT FERRY PERMIT REQUESTS AND RECEIVES AN IFR CLRNC DUE TO BELOW VFR WX AT HIS DEST ARPT CONTRARY TO HIS VFR RESTR ON HIS FERRY PERMIT. IN ADDITION, HE IS ANNOYED THAT ATC DOES NOT READILY HANDLE HIS 'IFR POP-UP' REQUEST.
Narrative: I RECEIVED 2 WX BRIEFINGS FROM THE WILLIAMSPORT FSS. MS Y SAID THAT 'THE WX BTWN AVP AND FOK WAS NOT RECOMMENDED FOR VFR FLT. HOWEVER, THERE IS A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY FOR VFR WITH THE DEP TIME AFTER XA00 AND LNDG AFTER XBOO.' SHE WAS EXACTLY RIGHT. I WAS ABLE TO STAY CLR OF CLOUDS ALL THE WAY TO BRIDGEPORT. IT WAS A SHORT FLT ACROSS LONG ISLAND SOUND TO FOK. I WAS THEN INFORMED THAT FOK WAS IFR AND WOULD NOT LET ME IN VFR. THEY WERE 700 FT BROKEN. I THEN ASKED FOR AN IFR CLRNC, EXPECTING AN IFR PICK-UP. THE CTLR INFORMED ME 'I MUST FILE WITH FSS.' I THEN ASKED FOR A GOOD FREQ (FSS) AND GOT IT WITH SOME TREPIDATION ON THE CTLR'S PART. I FINALLY GOT THE IFR FROM APCH. HE STARTED VECTORING ME IN THE CLB TO 4000 FT. I NOTICED THAT MY DIRECTIONAL GYRO PRECESSED AND TRIED TO SET IT TO THE COMPASS BUT HAD TROUBLE BECAUSE OF TURB. HE THEN TOLD ME TO TURN L TO 155 DEGS, BUT IT WAS CLOSER TO TURN. I FOLLOWED HIS INSTRUCTION AND TURNED L. THIS LEFT ME DISORIENTED. HE THEN TOLD ME TO GO TO THE NEW HAVEN VOR, ANOTHER FREQ CHANGE. AT THIS POINT, I POPPED OUT INTO SEVERE VFR JUST AS FSS PREDICTED. I TOLD THE CTLR TO CANCEL IFR AND DSNDED VFR TO 2000 FT, THE MSA. AT THAT POINT HE VECTORED ME TO CHESTER ARPT AND ASKED ME TO CALL HIM. HE ASKED IF I GOT A WX BRIEFING, I SAID YES. HE CALLED THE WILLIAMSPORT FSS TO SEE IF WE DID AND THEY ANSWERED I DID BUT VFR WAS NOT RECOMMENDED, BUT SAID NOTHING ABOUT THE WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITY. THE CTLR SAID 'WE WERE THE ONLY VFR FLT IN THE AREA,' AND THAT OBVIOUSLY ANNOYED HIM. I DO BELIEVE THAT THE VFR ONLY RESTR ON THE FERRY PERMIT CAN BE UNSAFE IN SITS LIKE THIS. IT WOULD BE FAR SAFER TO FILE IFR FOR THIS TRIP AND NEW YORK APCH WOULD KNOW THAT I WAS COMING AND THERE WOULD BE FEWER VECTORS THAT ARE DISORIENTING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.