B757-200 PIC concerned with sct handling when conducting a san runway 27 approach.

Attributes
ACN	515723
Time
Date	200106
Day	Sun
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	intersection : swatt
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl single value : 5000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : sct.tracon
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B757-200
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	ils localizer & glide slope : 27
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Route In Use	approach : instrument precision arrival : on vectors
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 23000 flight time type : 4000
ASRS Report	515723
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	altitude deviation : undershoot altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : published procedure other anomaly
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Airport ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance

Narrative:

The socal approach controller vectored us onto the localizer, runway 27, to san. Unfortunately, he left us at 5000 ft MSL over the swatt intersection, inbound, before issuing an approach clearance. We were now on about a 4 degree GS to the runway, and we were unable to descend in a comfortable/stabilized manner, and had no choice but to request to be resequenced for the approach. The controller seemed oblivious to our problem of being at 5000 ft MSL over swatt, when we should have been at 3600 ft MSL over swatt, as per the approach plate. Only 1 week earlier (the same flight number) we had experienced another problem with socal approach control when the controller made us go around after we had been cleared for the approach and inside swatt because of faster traffic behind us! All because we advised ATC that we wanted to be stabilized, on speed, prior to passing reebo -- the FAF which then requires flying a 3.55 degree GS to the runway. We were penalized for not succumbing to intimidation tactics of maintaining 180 KTS until reebo (FAF)! Summary: san is considered a 'special' airport by the FAA. The socal approach controllers need to be cognizant that acrs (jets) need to be stabilized, at approach speed, on profile, at the recommended altitudes on the approach plate -- particularly for runway 27, so as to ensure safely executed approachs!

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B757-200 PIC CONCERNED WITH SCT HANDLING WHEN CONDUCTING A SAN RWY 27 APCH.

Narrative: THE SOCAL APCH CTLR VECTORED US ONTO THE LOC, RWY 27, TO SAN. UNFORTUNATELY, HE LEFT US AT 5000 FT MSL OVER THE SWATT INTXN, INBOUND, BEFORE ISSUING AN APCH CLRNC. WE WERE NOW ON ABOUT A 4 DEG GS TO THE RWY, AND WE WERE UNABLE TO DSND IN A COMFORTABLE/STABILIZED MANNER, AND HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO REQUEST TO BE RESEQUENCED FOR THE APCH. THE CTLR SEEMED OBLIVIOUS TO OUR PROB OF BEING AT 5000 FT MSL OVER SWATT, WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT 3600 FT MSL OVER SWATT, AS PER THE APCH PLATE. ONLY 1 WK EARLIER (THE SAME FLT NUMBER) WE HAD EXPERIENCED ANOTHER PROB WITH SOCAL APCH CTL WHEN THE CTLR MADE US GO AROUND AFTER WE HAD BEEN CLRED FOR THE APCH AND INSIDE SWATT BECAUSE OF FASTER TFC BEHIND US! ALL BECAUSE WE ADVISED ATC THAT WE WANTED TO BE STABILIZED, ON SPD, PRIOR TO PASSING REEBO -- THE FAF WHICH THEN REQUIRES FLYING A 3.55 DEG GS TO THE RWY. WE WERE PENALIZED FOR NOT SUCCUMBING TO INTIMIDATION TACTICS OF MAINTAINING 180 KTS UNTIL REEBO (FAF)! SUMMARY: SAN IS CONSIDERED A 'SPECIAL' ARPT BY THE FAA. THE SOCAL APCH CTLRS NEED TO BE COGNIZANT THAT ACRS (JETS) NEED TO BE STABILIZED, AT APCH SPD, ON PROFILE, AT THE RECOMMENDED ALTS ON THE APCH PLATE -- PARTICULARLY FOR RWY 27, SO AS TO ENSURE SAFELY EXECUTED APCHS!

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.