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Attributes | |
ACN | 517098 |
Time | |
Date | 200107 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zkc.artcc |
State Reference | KS |
Altitude | msl single value : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc.artcc artcc : zjx.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 517098 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 190 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 517101 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action other |
Consequence | other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 27000 vertical : 1500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error other |
Narrative:
Possible loss of separation. Level cruise at FL370 proceeding direct to bkw. Approximately over tul, we heard controller issue a turn to a company aircraft. We were talking and radio traffic was very heavy. We missed the call sign and waited a moment for controller to reissue clearance. When controller reissued clearance he was garbled/muffled and it sounded to me like he was calling 'air carrier xyz'.' when 'air carrier xyz' did not respond, I queried the controller as to who the clearance was intended for. At this point, the controller sounded tense and told us to turn immediately left to 350 degrees for traffic. This represented almost a 90 degree turn from our track of 075 degrees and struck us both as unusual. The controller called out opposite direction traffic climbing and I spotted it at the same time we received the TA. TCASII indicated the conflict aircraft to be +1500 ft and the aircraft reported climbing through FL385 confirming this. (When issued the clearance to turn, the captain did so without delay.) I do not believe a conflict was imminent, but separation may have been compromised. Our turn was delayed by poor communication, both the captain and I heard what we thought was another call sign with our turn clearance. Center radio was not clear -- static and slightly garbled. I do not now if he used the wrong call sign or if the poor transmission quality was responsible. Another controller took over on the same frequency and was clear and readable. The situation may have been avoided if the captain and I had not been in conversation initially, but I don't think we missed our call sign. Also, I suspect the opposite direction traffic was not achieving the climb performance the controller had anticipated. (But this is just speculation on my part.)
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-700 CREW HAD LESS THAN LEGAL SPACING IN ZKC CLASS A AIRSPACE.
Narrative: POSSIBLE LOSS OF SEPARATION. LEVEL CRUISE AT FL370 PROCEEDING DIRECT TO BKW. APPROX OVER TUL, WE HEARD CTLR ISSUE A TURN TO A COMPANY ACFT. WE WERE TALKING AND RADIO TFC WAS VERY HVY. WE MISSED THE CALL SIGN AND WAITED A MOMENT FOR CTLR TO REISSUE CLRNC. WHEN CTLR REISSUED CLRNC HE WAS GARBLED/MUFFLED AND IT SOUNDED TO ME LIKE HE WAS CALLING 'ACR XYZ'.' WHEN 'ACR XYZ' DID NOT RESPOND, I QUERIED THE CTLR AS TO WHO THE CLRNC WAS INTENDED FOR. AT THIS POINT, THE CTLR SOUNDED TENSE AND TOLD US TO TURN IMMEDIATELY L TO 350 DEGS FOR TFC. THIS REPRESENTED ALMOST A 90 DEG TURN FROM OUR TRACK OF 075 DEGS AND STRUCK US BOTH AS UNUSUAL. THE CTLR CALLED OUT OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC CLBING AND I SPOTTED IT AT THE SAME TIME WE RECEIVED THE TA. TCASII INDICATED THE CONFLICT ACFT TO BE +1500 FT AND THE ACFT RPTED CLBING THROUGH FL385 CONFIRMING THIS. (WHEN ISSUED THE CLRNC TO TURN, THE CAPT DID SO WITHOUT DELAY.) I DO NOT BELIEVE A CONFLICT WAS IMMINENT, BUT SEPARATION MAY HAVE BEEN COMPROMISED. OUR TURN WAS DELAYED BY POOR COM, BOTH THE CAPT AND I HEARD WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS ANOTHER CALL SIGN WITH OUR TURN CLRNC. CTR RADIO WAS NOT CLR -- STATIC AND SLIGHTLY GARBLED. I DO NOT NOW IF HE USED THE WRONG CALL SIGN OR IF THE POOR XMISSION QUALITY WAS RESPONSIBLE. ANOTHER CTLR TOOK OVER ON THE SAME FREQ AND WAS CLR AND READABLE. THE SIT MAY HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THE CAPT AND I HAD NOT BEEN IN CONVERSATION INITIALLY, BUT I DON'T THINK WE MISSED OUR CALL SIGN. ALSO, I SUSPECT THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC WAS NOT ACHIEVING THE CLB PERFORMANCE THE CTLR HAD ANTICIPATED. (BUT THIS IS JUST SPECULATION ON MY PART.)
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.