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Attributes | |
ACN | 517150 |
Time | |
Date | 200109 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zab.artcc |
State Reference | NM |
Altitude | msl single value : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 23 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 23 |
ASRS Report | 517150 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : required legal separation |
Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Flight was cleared for descent with a crossing restr of 12000 ft at mazat (as told to expect on the plate). I looked at our location and the fix. The captain and first officer were discussing the descent, so I went back to the flight engineer panel to finish descent preparation. As we approached the fix, it became questionable whether we would make the crossing restr. The rate of descent was increased and center was informed that it was going to be close. We were vectored off the arrival for an uneventful 360 degree turn to resume the arrival. Next time, I will take the time to listen to, and doublechk, the front seat crew.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727-200 CREW UNABLE TO MAKE A PUBLISHED XING RESTR.
Narrative: FLT WAS CLRED FOR DSCNT WITH A XING RESTR OF 12000 FT AT MAZAT (AS TOLD TO EXPECT ON THE PLATE). I LOOKED AT OUR LOCATION AND THE FIX. THE CAPT AND FO WERE DISCUSSING THE DSCNT, SO I WENT BACK TO THE FE PANEL TO FINISH DSCNT PREPARATION. AS WE APCHED THE FIX, IT BECAME QUESTIONABLE WHETHER WE WOULD MAKE THE XING RESTR. THE RATE OF DSCNT WAS INCREASED AND CTR WAS INFORMED THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE CLOSE. WE WERE VECTORED OFF THE ARR FOR AN UNEVENTFUL 360 DEG TURN TO RESUME THE ARR. NEXT TIME, I WILL TAKE THE TIME TO LISTEN TO, AND DOUBLECHK, THE FRONT SEAT CREW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.