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Attributes | |
ACN | 517414 |
Time | |
Date | 200107 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zzz.tracon |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 13000 msl bound upper : 14000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 165 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 1550 |
ASRS Report | 517414 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued alert |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Approach control gave us descent to 12000 ft. Captain read back to approach control and I started my descent. Controller then radioed, 'since you have already started down anyway' told us to just level off at 13000 ft. Gave us a change of runway to south complex and implied we had taken another's clearance. No conflict generated. Air carrier Y was also on frequency. Captain questioned controller about clearance, but we were switched to next sector. Both captain and first officer feel the call was for us. Captain called approach control supervisor after landing. Supervisor said he listened to the tapes [report damaged, data missing]...say if the call was for us or not.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 CREW HAD SIMILAR CALL SIGNS AND CLRNC READBACK HEARBACK PROBS WITH THE APCH CTLR.
Narrative: APCH CTL GAVE US DSCNT TO 12000 FT. CAPT READ BACK TO APCH CTL AND I STARTED MY DSCNT. CTLR THEN RADIOED, 'SINCE YOU HAVE ALREADY STARTED DOWN ANYWAY' TOLD US TO JUST LEVEL OFF AT 13000 FT. GAVE US A CHANGE OF RWY TO S COMPLEX AND IMPLIED WE HAD TAKEN ANOTHER'S CLRNC. NO CONFLICT GENERATED. ACR Y WAS ALSO ON FREQ. CAPT QUESTIONED CTLR ABOUT CLRNC, BUT WE WERE SWITCHED TO NEXT SECTOR. BOTH CAPT AND FO FEEL THE CALL WAS FOR US. CAPT CALLED APCH CTL SUPVR AFTER LNDG. SUPVR SAID HE LISTENED TO THE TAPES [RPT DAMAGED, DATA MISSING]...SAY IF THE CALL WAS FOR US OR NOT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.