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Attributes | |
ACN | 518020 |
Time | |
Date | 200107 |
Day | Wed |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit.airport |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : oak.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 3900 flight time type : 270 |
ASRS Report | 518020 |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance Weather ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
The heading assigned to us was going to put us into a cell on radar. Approach controller was busy. Finally advised him that we needed 090 degrees or 180 degree heading instead of 140 degree heading for the WX. By the time he gave us 180 degree heading, we were too close to turn right to 180 degrees without going through the cell we wanted to avoid. I advised controller that we needed 090 degree heading. Nothing we could have done, but controller was not very happy due to heavy traffic in that area. Captain is turning without keeping me in the loop made it more complicated than it should be in my opinion, and that CRM principle was undermined at that time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN EMB-145 FLT CREW TURNS OFF ASSIGNED COURSE FOR WX AVOIDANCE.
Narrative: THE HDG ASSIGNED TO US WAS GOING TO PUT US INTO A CELL ON RADAR. APCH CTLR WAS BUSY. FINALLY ADVISED HIM THAT WE NEEDED 090 DEGS OR 180 DEG HDG INSTEAD OF 140 DEG HDG FOR THE WX. BY THE TIME HE GAVE US 180 DEG HDG, WE WERE TOO CLOSE TO TURN R TO 180 DEGS WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE CELL WE WANTED TO AVOID. I ADVISED CTLR THAT WE NEEDED 090 DEG HDG. NOTHING WE COULD HAVE DONE, BUT CTLR WAS NOT VERY HAPPY DUE TO HVY TFC IN THAT AREA. CAPT IS TURNING WITHOUT KEEPING ME IN THE LOOP MADE IT MORE COMPLICATED THAN IT SHOULD BE IN MY OPINION, AND THAT CRM PRINCIPLE WAS UNDERMINED AT THAT TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.