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Attributes | |
ACN | 615461 |
Time | |
Date | 200404 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : mxe.vor |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 12000 msl bound upper : 12700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm Turbulence |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon tower : san.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 954 |
ASRS Report | 615461 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter : turbulence non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight departed phl. WX was IFR with small thunderstorms in the area. We departed runway 9L and turned west on a vector to intercept the mxe 278 degree radial. Our altitude clearance was to 12000 ft. After rolling wings level heading west, passing approximately 9000 ft, we detected a storm cell at 12 O'clock position and 7-8 mi. Just then, phl departure handed us to new york. We had asked to deviate south, but were told to ask new york for this. New york did not answer several queries, so we started a turn south at about the time we started breaking out of the ragged tops and could see the cell. Due to the turbulence and transition from IMC to VMC, our leveloff at 12000 ft was overshot and the aircraft reached 12700 ft before it could be returned to 12000 ft. There was no traffic on the TCASII and new york said nothing. Poor communications, bad WX and the natural tendency to 'see and avoid' contributed to this situation. The aircraft was being hand flown to maintain proficiency. This situation would have been probably mitigated through use of the autoflt system, but I still think that with the turbulence, it too would have overshot the altitude.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 FLT CREW WITH ZNY CLBS ABOVE ASSIGNED ALT DURING WX AVOIDANCE EFFORTS IN N90 AIRSPACE.
Narrative: FLT DEPARTED PHL. WX WAS IFR WITH SMALL TSTMS IN THE AREA. WE DEPARTED RWY 9L AND TURNED W ON A VECTOR TO INTERCEPT THE MXE 278 DEG RADIAL. OUR ALT CLRNC WAS TO 12000 FT. AFTER ROLLING WINGS LEVEL HDG W, PASSING APPROX 9000 FT, WE DETECTED A STORM CELL AT 12 O'CLOCK POS AND 7-8 MI. JUST THEN, PHL DEP HANDED US TO NEW YORK. WE HAD ASKED TO DEVIATE S, BUT WERE TOLD TO ASK NEW YORK FOR THIS. NEW YORK DID NOT ANSWER SEVERAL QUERIES, SO WE STARTED A TURN S AT ABOUT THE TIME WE STARTED BREAKING OUT OF THE RAGGED TOPS AND COULD SEE THE CELL. DUE TO THE TURB AND TRANSITION FROM IMC TO VMC, OUR LEVELOFF AT 12000 FT WAS OVERSHOT AND THE ACFT REACHED 12700 FT BEFORE IT COULD BE RETURNED TO 12000 FT. THERE WAS NO TFC ON THE TCASII AND NEW YORK SAID NOTHING. POOR COMS, BAD WX AND THE NATURAL TENDENCY TO 'SEE AND AVOID' CONTRIBUTED TO THIS SIT. THE ACFT WAS BEING HAND FLOWN TO MAINTAIN PROFICIENCY. THIS SIT WOULD HAVE BEEN PROBABLY MITIGATED THROUGH USE OF THE AUTOFLT SYS, BUT I STILL THINK THAT WITH THE TURB, IT TOO WOULD HAVE OVERSHOT THE ALT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.