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Attributes | |
ACN | 518161 |
Time | |
Date | 200107 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : azo.airport |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : azo.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked ground : taxi |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 55 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 518161 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other other anomaly other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera other controllerb other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Airport Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Student requested an air taxi to other side of airport and controller issued clearance via txwys. Controller did not seem to understand air taxi versus hover taxi. After student started to air taxi, controller #2 came on with clearance and no other aircraft were involved. Controller stated that airport had a policy of only hard surface operations. I explained it was hard to air taxi via a surface taxi route with sharp turns at the speed required. The controller then implied that there would be no more air taxi operations at the airport.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A ROTARY WINGED TRAINING FLT REQUESTS AN 'AIR TAXI' TYPE PROC AT A TWRED ARPT, CREATING SOME CONFUSION REGARDING THE 'AIR TAXI' REQUEST AT AZO, MI.
Narrative: STUDENT REQUESTED AN AIR TAXI TO OTHER SIDE OF ARPT AND CTLR ISSUED CLRNC VIA TXWYS. CTLR DID NOT SEEM TO UNDERSTAND AIR TAXI VERSUS HOVER TAXI. AFTER STUDENT STARTED TO AIR TAXI, CTLR #2 CAME ON WITH CLRNC AND NO OTHER ACFT WERE INVOLVED. CTLR STATED THAT ARPT HAD A POLICY OF ONLY HARD SURFACE OPS. I EXPLAINED IT WAS HARD TO AIR TAXI VIA A SURFACE TAXI RTE WITH SHARP TURNS AT THE SPD REQUIRED. THE CTLR THEN IMPLIED THAT THERE WOULD BE NO MORE AIR TAXI OPS AT THE ARPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.