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Attributes | |
ACN | 519511 |
Time | |
Date | 200107 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Bonanza 35 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 39.3 flight time total : 132.4 flight time type : 26.3 |
ASRS Report | 519511 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Company |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
I am a private pilot, licensed to fly single engine land airplanes. I have sign-offs to fly the C152 and C172. I have additional time in a C182, a C182TR, a piper warrior, and the beechcraft bonanza. Currently, I am pursuing my instrument rating at the local FBO, and I am attempting to augment my cross country time and experience. Jul/thu/01 I took a cross country flight of approximately 460 mi in a beechcraft bonanza (BE35) under the direction of an instructor. An IFR flight plan was filed under the instructor's name and the flight commenced. The flight was unremarkable. Upon return, because I do not have a signoff for high performance, complex airplanes, the time was logged as dual instruction only. Prior to the flight, we were asked to take boxes containing aluminum parts with a total weight of 175 pounds to a manufacturer's customer. Neither the instructor nor I were compensated for the flight. However, I have learned that carrying these boxes may have put us into a part 135 operation. It would appear that I did not sufficiently contemplate the idea of 'for compensation and hire,' as the general rule that was taught is that you cannot accept compensation for a flight, only that you may share expenses on an equal basis. It would also appear that my desire to take the flight did not allow me to adequately review all of the facts in order to make an informed decision. The cliche rings true -- hindsight is 20/20. Now with several days to reflect upon the flight, an additional request for a similar trip, which was denied, this type of flight will not happen again. Although the flight was unremarkable with no safety issues, the aluminum parts essentially were nothing more than a factor in weight and balance, and the fact that this flight would have been able to have taken place regardless of the parts does not entirely resolve the issue of the potential improper flight. Fortunately, the flight has resulted in a tremendous learning experience. I have researched the FARS in more detail, and I have consulted with fellow pilots and experts in the field, in order to enhance a greater understanding of acceptable practices.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PVT PLT OF A BEECH 35 WITH AN INSTRUCTOR PLT OPERATED ACFT ON A XCOUNTRY DUAL INSTRUCTIONAL FLT WHILE CARRYING CARGO IN AIR COMMERCE IN NON COMPLIANCE WITH FAR PART 135 PLT CREW MEMBER QUALIFICATIONS.
Narrative: I AM A PVT PLT, LICENSED TO FLY SINGLE ENG LAND AIRPLANES. I HAVE SIGN-OFFS TO FLY THE C152 AND C172. I HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME IN A C182, A C182TR, A PIPER WARRIOR, AND THE BEECHCRAFT BONANZA. CURRENTLY, I AM PURSUING MY INST RATING AT THE LCL FBO, AND I AM ATTEMPTING TO AUGMENT MY XCOUNTRY TIME AND EXPERIENCE. JUL/THU/01 I TOOK A XCOUNTRY FLT OF APPROX 460 MI IN A BEECHCRAFT BONANZA (BE35) UNDER THE DIRECTION OF AN INSTRUCTOR. AN IFR FLT PLAN WAS FILED UNDER THE INSTRUCTOR'S NAME AND THE FLT COMMENCED. THE FLT WAS UNREMARKABLE. UPON RETURN, BECAUSE I DO NOT HAVE A SIGNOFF FOR HIGH PERFORMANCE, COMPLEX AIRPLANES, THE TIME WAS LOGGED AS DUAL INSTRUCTION ONLY. PRIOR TO THE FLT, WE WERE ASKED TO TAKE BOXES CONTAINING ALUMINUM PARTS WITH A TOTAL WT OF 175 LBS TO A MANUFACTURER'S CUSTOMER. NEITHER THE INSTRUCTOR NOR I WERE COMPENSATED FOR THE FLT. HOWEVER, I HAVE LEARNED THAT CARRYING THESE BOXES MAY HAVE PUT US INTO A PART 135 OP. IT WOULD APPEAR THAT I DID NOT SUFFICIENTLY CONTEMPLATE THE IDEA OF 'FOR COMPENSATION AND HIRE,' AS THE GENERAL RULE THAT WAS TAUGHT IS THAT YOU CANNOT ACCEPT COMPENSATION FOR A FLT, ONLY THAT YOU MAY SHARE EXPENSES ON AN EQUAL BASIS. IT WOULD ALSO APPEAR THAT MY DESIRE TO TAKE THE FLT DID NOT ALLOW ME TO ADEQUATELY REVIEW ALL OF THE FACTS IN ORDER TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. THE CLICHE RINGS TRUE -- HINDSIGHT IS 20/20. NOW WITH SEVERAL DAYS TO REFLECT UPON THE FLT, AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST FOR A SIMILAR TRIP, WHICH WAS DENIED, THIS TYPE OF FLT WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. ALTHOUGH THE FLT WAS UNREMARKABLE WITH NO SAFETY ISSUES, THE ALUMINUM PARTS ESSENTIALLY WERE NOTHING MORE THAN A FACTOR IN WT AND BAL, AND THE FACT THAT THIS FLT WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE TAKEN PLACE REGARDLESS OF THE PARTS DOES NOT ENTIRELY RESOLVE THE ISSUE OF THE POTENTIAL IMPROPER FLT. FORTUNATELY, THE FLT HAS RESULTED IN A TREMENDOUS LEARNING EXPERIENCE. I HAVE RESEARCHED THE FARS IN MORE DETAIL, AND I HAVE CONSULTED WITH FELLOW PLTS AND EXPERTS IN THE FIELD, IN ORDER TO ENHANCE A GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF ACCEPTABLE PRACTICES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.