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Attributes | |
ACN | 520613 |
Time | |
Date | 200108 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hya.airport |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1000 msl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : hya.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Helicopter |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure : vfr |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 12500 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 520613 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Called ground for taxi and clearance. Ground control cleared aircraft 'SVFR out of control zone to the northwest and clear for takeoff.' sic asked if controller wished aircraft to go over to tower and his reply was he was 'working all the frequencys.' on climb out, controller said we were above 1000 ft and not squawking the appropriate code. We were not issued an altitude limit or given a squawk on our frequency, which was still ground frequency. Possibly clearance limits were given on tower frequency and our being on ground frequency caused the miscom. Possible solution would be to keep like traffic on the same frequencys (ie, taxi on ground then over to tower for takeoff) even if the controller is 'working all frequencys' after descending to 1000 ft MSL and squawking the code, we were switched from ground frequency to radar approach frequency and continued on our flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMBINED TWR CTLR FOR BOTH GND AND LCL, INADVERTENTLY FAILED TO PROVIDE THE FLC OF CPR HELI WITH THE XPONDER CODE AND DEP ALT LIMIT AFTER TKOF. THE MISTAKE BECAME KNOWN AFTER THE CTLR NOTICED RPTR'S OVERSHOOTING DEP ALT AND NOT SQUAWKING THE APPROPRIATE DEP CODE.
Narrative: CALLED GND FOR TAXI AND CLRNC. GND CTL CLRED ACFT 'SVFR OUT OF CTL ZONE TO THE NW AND CLR FOR TKOF.' SIC ASKED IF CTLR WISHED ACFT TO GO OVER TO TWR AND HIS REPLY WAS HE WAS 'WORKING ALL THE FREQS.' ON CLBOUT, CTLR SAID WE WERE ABOVE 1000 FT AND NOT SQUAWKING THE APPROPRIATE CODE. WE WERE NOT ISSUED AN ALT LIMIT OR GIVEN A SQUAWK ON OUR FREQ, WHICH WAS STILL GND FREQ. POSSIBLY CLRNC LIMITS WERE GIVEN ON TWR FREQ AND OUR BEING ON GND FREQ CAUSED THE MISCOM. POSSIBLE SOLUTION WOULD BE TO KEEP LIKE TFC ON THE SAME FREQS (IE, TAXI ON GND THEN OVER TO TWR FOR TKOF) EVEN IF THE CTLR IS 'WORKING ALL FREQS' AFTER DSNDING TO 1000 FT MSL AND SQUAWKING THE CODE, WE WERE SWITCHED FROM GND FREQ TO RADAR APCH FREQ AND CONTINUED ON OUR FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.