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Attributes | |
ACN | 521798 |
Time | |
Date | 200108 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : ape.vortac |
State Reference | OH |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc artcc : zob.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | DC-9 30 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zid.artcc |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 22000 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 521798 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 521797 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : separated traffic controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance FAA |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
During descent into ZZZ, flight XXX from boston was not given the normal crossing restr ie: cross limps at 11000 ft as usual. The flight was on an assigned heading from ATC. At approximately 14000 ft ATC asked what are you doing, to which we replied, flying present heading as assigned. ATC instructed us to turn right to heading of 270 degrees hard turn. I immediately executed the hard right turn to heading of 270 degrees, assuming there must be a traffic conflict. At no time prior to the turn or after were we issued a TA by ATC. We did not see the traffic in question. I asked ATC if they would like us to give them a phone call on the ground. They advised no, that their alarm sounded, and would look at it later. Our DC9's do not have TCASII installed and I believe that although the system in place worked, that it probably would not have occurred had TCASII been installed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DC9-30 CARGO ACFT AND UNKNOWN ACFT HAD LESS THAN LEGAL SPACING IN ZID CLASS E.
Narrative: DURING DSCNT INTO ZZZ, FLT XXX FROM BOSTON WAS NOT GIVEN THE NORMAL XING RESTR IE: CROSS LIMPS AT 11000 FT AS USUAL. THE FLT WAS ON AN ASSIGNED HEADING FROM ATC. AT APPROX 14000 FT ATC ASKED WHAT ARE YOU DOING, TO WHICH WE REPLIED, FLYING PRESENT HEADING AS ASSIGNED. ATC INSTRUCTED US TO TURN R TO HEADING OF 270 DEGS HARD TURN. I IMMEDIATELY EXECUTED THE HARD R TURN TO HEADING OF 270 DEGS, ASSUMING THERE MUST BE A TFC CONFLICT. AT NO TIME PRIOR TO THE TURN OR AFTER WERE WE ISSUED A TA BY ATC. WE DID NOT SEE THE TFC IN QUESTION. I ASKED ATC IF THEY WOULD LIKE US TO GIVE THEM A PHONE CALL ON THE GND. THEY ADVISED NO, THAT THEIR ALARM SOUNDED, AND WOULD LOOK AT IT LATER. OUR DC9'S DO NOT HAVE TCASII INSTALLED AND I BELIEVE THAT ALTHOUGH THE SYS IN PLACE WORKED, THAT IT PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED HAD TCASII BEEN INSTALLED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.