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A C172 pilot taxied onto the runway of a non tower airport assuming he had enough room and time to depart before landing traffic.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 522503 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200108 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : 1v5.airport |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi ground : position and hold |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Experimental |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : roll |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 1100 flight time type : 360 |
| ASRS Report | 522503 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground critical non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We (my student and I) were holding short of runway 8 at 1v5. We were next in line to take off, a bellanca viking was waiting behind us. An edge 540 was in the downwind abeam the number 8. We normally can depart runway 8 with aircraft on the downwind (because it takes time to get to base and so on). The edge 540 apparently decided to make a short approach (nothing was said from the edge 540 about his intentions). We announced our taxi onto the runway. At that point the edge 540 announced that he was short final (he was actually on base) and told us to get off the runway. We immediately turned back towards the taxiway. At this point, the bellanca viking pulled to the hold short line effectively trapping us on the runway. I turned the airplane to see the approaching edge 540. The pilot of the edge 540 then told us to hold our position, he would land past us. He chose to land right over us instead of extending the landing somewhat. He missed us by 15-20 ft or so. He may have been experienced enough to feel comfortable missing us by such a short amount but I did not. We subsequently took off for the flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C172 PLT TAXIED ONTO THE RWY OF A NON TWR ARPT ASSUMING HE HAD ENOUGH ROOM AND TIME TO DEPART BEFORE LNDG TFC.
Narrative: WE (MY STUDENT AND I) WERE HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 8 AT 1V5. WE WERE NEXT IN LINE TO TAKE OFF, A BELLANCA VIKING WAS WAITING BEHIND US. AN EDGE 540 WAS IN THE DOWNWIND ABEAM THE NUMBER 8. WE NORMALLY CAN DEPART RWY 8 WITH ACFT ON THE DOWNWIND (BECAUSE IT TAKES TIME TO GET TO BASE AND SO ON). THE EDGE 540 APPARENTLY DECIDED TO MAKE A SHORT APCH (NOTHING WAS SAID FROM THE EDGE 540 ABOUT HIS INTENTIONS). WE ANNOUNCED OUR TAXI ONTO THE RWY. AT THAT POINT THE EDGE 540 ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS SHORT FINAL (HE WAS ACTUALLY ON BASE) AND TOLD US TO GET OFF THE RWY. WE IMMEDIATELY TURNED BACK TOWARDS THE TXWY. AT THIS POINT, THE BELLANCA VIKING PULLED TO THE HOLD SHORT LINE EFFECTIVELY TRAPPING US ON THE RWY. I TURNED THE AIRPLANE TO SEE THE APCHING EDGE 540. THE PLT OF THE EDGE 540 THEN TOLD US TO HOLD OUR POS, HE WOULD LAND PAST US. HE CHOSE TO LAND RIGHT OVER US INSTEAD OF EXTENDING THE LNDG SOMEWHAT. HE MISSED US BY 15-20 FT OR SO. HE MAY HAVE BEEN EXPERIENCED ENOUGH TO FEEL COMFORTABLE MISSING US BY SUCH A SHORT AMOUNT BUT I DID NOT. WE SUBSEQUENTLY TOOK OFF FOR THE FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.