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B-737-800 crew was given an ATC reroute that was illegal because the aircraft was not approved for ETOPS operation.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 523163 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200108 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zny.artcc |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl single value : 33000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Mixed |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-800 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | other personnel |
| Qualification | technician : airframe technician : powerplant |
| ASRS Report | 523163 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : 1 |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance FAA |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : zny.artcc |
Narrative:
ATC reroutes of flights without regard to potential legality issues. Zza-zzb flight which is operated by a 737-800 which currently doesn't have ETOPS certification is being rerouted or attempted to be rerouted nightly by ny oceanic into ETOPS airspace even though another route had been coordinated between the company and ZNY. It appears that a few controllers are arbitrarily doing this. The easiest solution would be to get the aircraft ETOPS certified for that area, but that won't happen in the near term. ATC management needs to make controllers more aware of possible route restrictions which may not be immediately obvious on their scopes.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B-737-800 CREW WAS GIVEN AN ATC REROUTE THAT WAS ILLEGAL BECAUSE THE ACFT WAS NOT APPROVED FOR ETOPS OP.
Narrative: ATC REROUTES OF FLIGHTS WITHOUT REGARD TO POTENTIAL LEGALITY ISSUES. ZZA-ZZB FLT WHICH IS OPERATED BY A 737-800 WHICH CURRENTLY DOESN'T HAVE ETOPS CERTIFICATION IS BEING REROUTED OR ATTEMPTED TO BE REROUTED NIGHTLY BY NY OCEANIC INTO ETOPS AIRSPACE EVEN THOUGH ANOTHER ROUTE HAD BEEN COORDINATED BTWN THE COMPANY AND ZNY. IT APPEARS THAT A FEW CTLRS ARE ARBITRARILY DOING THIS. THE EASIEST SOLUTION WOULD BE TO GET THE ACFT ETOPS CERTIFIED FOR THAT AREA, BUT THAT WON'T HAPPEN IN THE NEAR TERM. ATC MGMNT NEEDS TO MAKE CTLRS MORE AWARE OF POSSIBLE RTE RESTRICTIONS WHICH MAY NOT BE IMMEDIATELY OBVIOUS ON THEIR SCOPES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.