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A C-340 corporate pilot passes the first of two sets of hold short lines for either runway 20 or 02 before the controller advises him of same at mkl, tn.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 523337 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200108 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : mkl.airport |
| State Reference | TN |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : mkl.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Cessna 340/340A |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time total : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 523332 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | controller : ground |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Airport | markings : mkl.airport |
Narrative:
Please be advised that on the above date I was taxiing toward the active runway when the tower operator called out, 'you have gone past the hold line.' I stopped immediately and looked at my position. I observed the hold line up further from my position and advised the tower that the hold line was ahead of me, a few more feet. He told me that the one I just passed was the current hold line. I advised him that the old, or not current, line was still quite visible facing the departure end of the runway. He seemed rather upset about the situation. I acted as I would on any other taxi to the hold line and was going to stop at same. I asked what he wanted me to do. He never gave an answer that I could relate to. I was cleared for takeoff. I left. This was a situation that I have never been confronted with in all my flying yrs. If, in fact, they were trying to move the hold line, the old line should be marked out.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C-340 CORPORATE PLT PASSES THE FIRST OF TWO SETS OF HOLD SHORT LINES FOR EITHER RWY 20 OR 02 BEFORE THE CTLR ADVISES HIM OF SAME AT MKL, TN.
Narrative: PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT ON THE ABOVE DATE I WAS TAXIING TOWARD THE ACTIVE RWY WHEN THE TOWER OPERATOR CALLED OUT, 'YOU HAVE GONE PAST THE HOLD LINE.' I STOPPED IMMEDIATELY AND LOOKED AT MY POSITION. I OBSERVED THE HOLD LINE UP FURTHER FROM MY POSITION AND ADVISED THE TWR THAT THE HOLD LINE WAS AHEAD OF ME, A FEW MORE FEET. HE TOLD ME THAT THE ONE I JUST PASSED WAS THE CURRENT HOLD LINE. I ADVISED HIM THAT THE OLD, OR NOT CURRENT, LINE WAS STILL QUITE VISIBLE FACING THE DEP END OF THE RWY. HE SEEMED RATHER UPSET ABOUT THE SIT. I ACTED AS I WOULD ON ANY OTHER TAXI TO THE HOLD LINE AND WAS GOING TO STOP AT SAME. I ASKED WHAT HE WANTED ME TO DO. HE NEVER GAVE AN ANSWER THAT I COULD RELATE TO. I WAS CLEARED FOR TKOF. I LEFT. THIS WAS A SIT THAT I HAVE NEVER BEEN CONFRONTED WITH IN ALL MY FLYING YRS. IF, IN FACT, THEY WERE TRYING TO MOVE THE HOLD LINE, THE OLD LINE SHOULD BE MARKED OUT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.