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An atlantic crossing flight is delayed with vectors outside shanwick's airspace while clearance confusion is straightened out.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 524290 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200109 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : eggx.artcc |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 35000 msl bound upper : 38000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute : atlantic enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 524290 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
While in radar contact, received full route oceanic clearance from reykjavik control as follows. Filed flight plan route via 6010N, 5920N, 5730N, 5540N, 5250N, dotty, FL350, mach .81. The clearance was copied, acknowledged with a full route readback, and confirmed by reykjavik control. While in the scottish airspace we were asked to contact shanwick oceanic. Scottish then advised us that shanwick did not have an oceanic flight plan on us. ATC issued a delaying vector of 180 degrees to provide time to sort out the problem. Upon contacting shanwick, they cleared us via 6110N, 5920N, 5730N, 5540N, 5350N, yay, mach .81, FL330. Recontacting scottish domestic, they queried us who issued oceanic clearance. Our response was that reykjavik did. Scottish then sent us back to 6110N and us to recontact reykjavik. Upon recontacting reyk, they cleared us initially via 6110N, then 6220N, FL380, mach .80. After several mins reyk cleared us via 6110N, 5820N, 5630N, 5440N, 5150N, cymo, FL380, mach .80. We asked reyk if this clearance through shanwick's airspace was a valid clearance. Reyk responded that it indeed is a valid clearance into shanwick's airspace and that he was coordinating. At no time did we enter shanwick's airspace without a clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ATLANTIC XING FLT IS DELAYED WITH VECTORS OUTSIDE SHANWICK'S AIRSPACE WHILE CLRNC CONFUSION IS STRAIGHTENED OUT.
Narrative: WHILE IN RADAR CONTACT, RECEIVED FULL RTE OCEANIC CLRNC FROM REYKJAVIK CTL AS FOLLOWS. FILED FLT PLAN RTE VIA 6010N, 5920N, 5730N, 5540N, 5250N, DOTTY, FL350, MACH .81. THE CLRNC WAS COPIED, ACKNOWLEDGED WITH A FULL RTE READBACK, AND CONFIRMED BY REYKJAVIK CTL. WHILE IN THE SCOTTISH AIRSPACE WE WERE ASKED TO CONTACT SHANWICK OCEANIC. SCOTTISH THEN ADVISED US THAT SHANWICK DID NOT HAVE AN OCEANIC FLT PLAN ON US. ATC ISSUED A DELAYING VECTOR OF 180 DEGS TO PROVIDE TIME TO SORT OUT THE PROB. UPON CONTACTING SHANWICK, THEY CLRED US VIA 6110N, 5920N, 5730N, 5540N, 5350N, YAY, MACH .81, FL330. RECONTACTING SCOTTISH DOMESTIC, THEY QUERIED US WHO ISSUED OCEANIC CLRNC. OUR RESPONSE WAS THAT REYKJAVIK DID. SCOTTISH THEN SENT US BACK TO 6110N AND US TO RECONTACT REYKJAVIK. UPON RECONTACTING REYK, THEY CLRED US INITIALLY VIA 6110N, THEN 6220N, FL380, MACH .80. AFTER SEVERAL MINS REYK CLRED US VIA 6110N, 5820N, 5630N, 5440N, 5150N, CYMO, FL380, MACH .80. WE ASKED REYK IF THIS CLRNC THROUGH SHANWICK'S AIRSPACE WAS A VALID CLRNC. REYK RESPONDED THAT IT INDEED IS A VALID CLRNC INTO SHANWICK'S AIRSPACE AND THAT HE WAS COORDINATING. AT NO TIME DID WE ENTER SHANWICK'S AIRSPACE WITHOUT A CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.