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Attributes | |
ACN | 527038 |
Time | |
Date | 200110 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : clt.airport |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : clt.tracon tower : clt.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : hornet |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time type : 2021 |
ASRS Report | 527038 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 1189 |
ASRS Report | 527039 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to original clearance |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Chart | sid : hornet |
Publication | COMMERCIAL |
Narrative:
Cleared hornet 1 departure naley transition. I (PF) initially briefed runway 36L departure left turn to 330 det at 2.5 clt. I could not find a text explaining the naley transition. I did find a text listed under departure that stated 'proceed via the depicted radial to the transition fix. I thought that meant for the naley transition we should proceed via the 022 radial out to naley. I was not sure and due to the increase in security procedures we did not have time to clarify this prior to push back. We decide we would ask tower prior to takeoff to verify either a straight out climb or a left turn at clt 2.5 DME. Tower was extremely busy and cleared us for an immediate takeoff. When on the runway he told us to get off as landing traffic was to close. I was thinking that would give us a chance to ask tower to clarify departure procedures. But again we could not get a word in at all until we were again cleared for an immediate takeoff. I decided the wording of proceed via the radial was for the naley transition and 011 degree was the proper takeoff heading for the naley transition. The first officer said he would confirm with departure control. We were probably a mi beyond our turn point before departure confirmed all, runway 36L departure are to turn at 2.5 DME. I think it would help prevent this situation if the departure for naley transition is written in text somewhere on this company chart page. Also we should have clarified the proper heading prior to takeoff.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 CREW HAD CONFLICTING SID COMMERCIAL CHART DEP INFO ON THE HORNET 1 FROM CLT.
Narrative: CLRED HORNET 1 DEP NALEY TRANSITION. I (PF) INITIALLY BRIEFED RWY 36L DEP LEFT TURN TO 330 DET AT 2.5 CLT. I COULD NOT FIND A TEXT EXPLAINING THE NALEY TRANSITION. I DID FIND A TEXT LISTED UNDER DEP THAT STATED 'PROCEED VIA THE DEPICTED RADIAL TO THE TRANSITION FIX. I THOUGHT THAT MEANT FOR THE NALEY TRANSITION WE SHOULD PROCEED VIA THE 022 RADIAL OUT TO NALEY. I WAS NOT SURE AND DUE TO THE INCREASE IN SECURITY PROCEDURES WE DID NOT HAVE TIME TO CLARIFY THIS PRIOR TO PUSH BACK. WE DECIDE WE WOULD ASK TWR PRIOR TO TKOF TO VERIFY EITHER A STRAIGHT OUT CLIMB OR A LEFT TURN AT CLT 2.5 DME. TWR WAS EXTREMELY BUSY AND CLRED US FOR AN IMMEDIATE TKOF. WHEN ON THE RWY HE TOLD US TO GET OFF AS LNDG TFC WAS TO CLOSE. I WAS THINKING THAT WOULD GIVE US A CHANCE TO ASK TWR TO CLARIFY DEP PROCEDURES. BUT AGAIN WE COULD NOT GET A WORD IN AT ALL UNTIL WE WERE AGAIN CLRED FOR AN IMMEDIATE TKOF. I DECIDED THE WORDING OF PROCEED VIA THE RADIAL WAS FOR THE NALEY TRANSITION AND 011 DEG WAS THE PROPER TKOF HEADING FOR THE NALEY TRANSITION. THE FO SAID HE WOULD CONFIRM WITH DEP CTL. WE WERE PROBABLY A MI BEYOND OUR TURN POINT BEFORE DEP CONFIRMED ALL, RWY 36L DEP ARE TO TURN AT 2.5 DME. I THINK IT WOULD HELP PREVENT THIS SIT IF THE DEP FOR NALEY TRANSITION IS WRITTEN IN TEXT SOMEWHERE ON THIS COMPANY CHART PAGE. ALSO WE SHOULD HAVE CLARIFIED THE PROPER HDG PRIOR TO TKOF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.