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B767 overshoots runway 9R final at atl, conflicting with a B737, due to tailing winds and late turn to final by A80.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 527076 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200110 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : atl.airport |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | agl single value : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : a80.tracon tower : zzz.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : a80.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 527076 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 3500 |
| ASRS Report | 527211 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : overrode automation flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 1000 vertical : 200 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Environmental Factor Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Vectored for visual approach from south for runway 9R atl. Heading 030 degree at 3500 ft MSL. Approximately 1 to 1 pt 5 NM from interception of runway centerline, approach control cleared us for visual with a 60 degree cut on final approach. Duet ot overshooting crosswind at about 40 KTS, our aircraft flew through centerline and had 'near conflict' with B737 on final runway 8L. First officer flying, I was PNF. First officer selected 'automatic pilot' to let automatic pilot intercept final, but automatic pilot could not turn sharply enough. I told first officer to kick off automatic pilot and turn aircraft 'now.' he responded, but our flight path still brought us close to other aircraft. Approach control asked repeatedly if we had visual on B737. I had to make sure first officer was turning adequately and advise him so my response to approach control was not as timely as they may have liked. The B737 did not have to go around. Contributing factors
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B767 OVERSHOOTS RWY 9R FINAL AT ATL, CONFLICTING WITH A B737, DUE TO TAILING WINDS AND LATE TURN TO FINAL BY A80.
Narrative: VECTORED FOR VISUAL APCH FROM SOUTH FOR RWY 9R ATL. HDG 030 DEG AT 3500 FT MSL. APPROX 1 TO 1 PT 5 NM FROM INTERCEPTION OF RWY CENTERLINE, APCH CTL CLRED US FOR VISUAL WITH A 60 DEG CUT ON FINAL APCH. DUET OT OVERSHOOTING XWIND AT ABOUT 40 KTS, OUR ACFT FLEW THROUGH CENTERLINE AND HAD 'NEAR CONFLICT' WITH B737 ON FINAL RWY 8L. FO FLYING, I WAS PNF. FO SELECTED 'AUTO PLT' TO LET AUTO PLT INTERCEPT FINAL, BUT AUTO PLT COULD NOT TURN SHARPLY ENOUGH. I TOLD FO TO KICK OFF AUTO PLT AND TURN ACFT 'NOW.' HE RESPONDED, BUT OUR FLT PATH STILL BROUGHT US CLOSE TO OTHER ACFT. APCH CTL ASKED REPEATEDLY IF WE HAD VISUAL ON B737. I HAD TO MAKE SURE FO WAS TURNING ADEQUATELY AND ADVISE HIM SO MY RESPONSE TO APCH CTL WAS NOT AS TIMELY AS THEY MAY HAVE LIKED. THE B737 DID NOT HAVE TO GAR. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.