B747 crew, on landing roll on 9R in mia, was assigned a turnoff on taxiway V or hold short of runway 12-30 for a landing B757-200 on runway 12. Crew had previously told the approach controller they were unable to accept a lahso clearance.

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Attributes
ACN	527188
Time
Date	200110
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mia.airport
State Reference	FL
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : mia.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B747 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Navigation In Use	ils localizer & glide slope : 9r
Flight Phase	landing : roll cruise : level
Route In Use	approach : instrument precision
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : mia.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 3000
ASRS Report	527188
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance flight crew : executed go around flight crew : took evasive action none taken : detected after the fact other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 9000 vertical : 1000
Supplementary
Problem Areas	ATC Human Performance FAA
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Inter Facility Coordination Failure other
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : mia.tower

Narrative:

We were operating from ZZZ, first officer, to miami, fl. Takeoff, cruise, and descent were normal. The ATIS at mia reported land-and-hold-short operations were in progress. When we contacted mia approach I advised them we were unable to conduct land-and-hold short operations. This is a company policy. We flew the ILS to runway 9R. On landing rollout, the tower advised us to turn left at taxiway 'V' or hold short of runway 12. I told them we were unable and needed to go to the end. The tower told us to expedite crossing runway 12, there was landing traffic on a 1 mi final. Crossing runway 12 I noted the landing aircraft an air carrier B757 at approximately 300 ft AGL on final. The air carrier stated that 'I don't like this.' mia tower advised the B757 to 'go around.' we cleared at the end of runway 12 and taxied to parking. From my perspective, our aircraft would have cleared runway 12 at the same time as the air carrier B757 touched down. Also, we were 'cleared to land,' we were not given a land-and-hold-short clearance, therefore, we had every right to use the entire runway length.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B747 CREW, ON LNDG ROLL ON 9R IN MIA, WAS ASSIGNED A TURNOFF ON TXWY V OR HOLD SHORT OF RWY 12-30 FOR A LNDG B757-200 ON RWY 12. CREW HAD PREVIOUSLY TOLD THE APCH CTLR THEY WERE UNABLE TO ACCEPT A LAHSO CLRNC.

Narrative: WE WERE OPERATING FROM ZZZ, FO, TO MIAMI, FL. TKOF, CRUISE, AND DSCNT WERE NORMAL. THE ATIS AT MIA RPTED LAND-AND-HOLD-SHORT OPS WERE IN PROGRESS. WHEN WE CONTACTED MIA APCH I ADVISED THEM WE WERE UNABLE TO CONDUCT LAND-AND-HOLD SHORT OPS. THIS IS A COMPANY POLICY. WE FLEW THE ILS TO RWY 9R. ON LNDG ROLLOUT, THE TWR ADVISED US TO TURN L AT TXWY 'V' OR HOLD SHORT OF RWY 12. I TOLD THEM WE WERE UNABLE AND NEEDED TO GO TO THE END. THE TWR TOLD US TO EXPEDITE XING RWY 12, THERE WAS LNDG TFC ON A 1 MI FINAL. XING RWY 12 I NOTED THE LNDG ACFT AN ACR B757 AT APPROX 300 FT AGL ON FINAL. THE ACR STATED THAT 'I DON'T LIKE THIS.' MIA TWR ADVISED THE B757 TO 'GO AROUND.' WE CLRED AT THE END OF RWY 12 AND TAXIED TO PARKING. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, OUR ACFT WOULD HAVE CLRED RWY 12 AT THE SAME TIME AS THE ACR B757 TOUCHED DOWN. ALSO, WE WERE 'CLRED TO LAND,' WE WERE NOT GIVEN A LAND-AND-HOLD-SHORT CLRNC, THEREFORE, WE HAD EVERY RIGHT TO USE THE ENTIRE RWY LENGTH.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.