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Flight crew accept visual approach clearance to lax runway 24R, partially obscured by WX, overshooting final, conflicting with other traffic for runway 24L.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 528101 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200110 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A320 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lax.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 6735 flight time type : 243 |
| ASRS Report | 528101 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other anomaly other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Weather Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After reporting the field in sight on a high downwind, we were cleared the visual (slam dunk) approach to runway 24R at lax. During the base turn the first officer and I both saw what we believed was the runway 24 complex at lax. I am an lax based pilot and have done this approach hundreds of times. The picture of the runway position just didn't seem right to me. I was still pretty high and concentrating on capturing the GS. The runways seemed too far south to be the runway 24 complex. A visual scan to the right of the runways revealed nothing but darkness and scattered patchy low clouds. The first officer called traffic on our left for the runway 25 complex. When I noticed the traffic, it seemed we were both converging on the same runway. As I maneuvered the aircraft to the right to discontinue the approach, I noticed the faint glow of the runway 24 complex. At this point we were slightly left of the runway 24L centerline. I adjusted our flight path and made an uneventful landing on runway 24R.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC ACCEPT VISUAL APCH CLRNC TO LAX RWY 24R, PARTIALLY OBSCURED BY WX, OVERSHOOTING FINAL, CONFLICTING WITH OTHER TFC FOR RWY 24L.
Narrative: AFTER RPTING THE FIELD IN SIGHT ON A HIGH DOWNWIND, WE WERE CLRED THE VISUAL (SLAM DUNK) APCH TO RWY 24R AT LAX. DURING THE BASE TURN THE FO AND I BOTH SAW WHAT WE BELIEVED WAS THE RWY 24 COMPLEX AT LAX. I AM AN LAX BASED PLT AND HAVE DONE THIS APCH HUNDREDS OF TIMES. THE PICTURE OF THE RWY POS JUST DIDN'T SEEM RIGHT TO ME. I WAS STILL PRETTY HIGH AND CONCENTRATING ON CAPTURING THE GS. THE RWYS SEEMED TOO FAR S TO BE THE RWY 24 COMPLEX. A VISUAL SCAN TO THE R OF THE RWYS REVEALED NOTHING BUT DARKNESS AND SCATTERED PATCHY LOW CLOUDS. THE FO CALLED TFC ON OUR L FOR THE RWY 25 COMPLEX. WHEN I NOTICED THE TFC, IT SEEMED WE WERE BOTH CONVERGING ON THE SAME RWY. AS I MANEUVERED THE ACFT TO THE R TO DISCONTINUE THE APCH, I NOTICED THE FAINT GLOW OF THE RWY 24 COMPLEX. AT THIS POINT WE WERE SLIGHTLY L OF THE RWY 24L CTRLINE. I ADJUSTED OUR FLT PATH AND MADE AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG ON RWY 24R.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.