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B737, ready for departure, observes wake turbulence event with landing B737 on runway 27R from a B767 departing runway 32R. Question to ord local controller less than appropriate for the incident.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 529456 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200111 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
| State Reference | IL |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : zzz.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : position and hold |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : ord.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 529456 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : wake turbulence non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : regained aircraft control |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Environmental Factor ATC Human Performance Aircraft |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure Inter Facility Coordination Failure Operational Error |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : ord.tower |
Narrative:
Waiting for departure on runway 32R, I witnessed the tower clearing a B767 for takeoff on runway 32R while a B737 was on very short final for runway 27R. As the B737 crossed the intersection of runway 32R it had a large roll deviation caused from the B767 jet wash. The captain of the B737 voiced his concerns and the tower controller nonchalantly stated the clearance was within the rules and regulations. I backed up the B737 pilot on the radio by telling the controller it was too close and definitely a safety concern and his response to me was simply 'call the FAA.' this controller did not take any responsibility for his actions and, with an attitude like his, has no regard for safety.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737, READY FOR DEP, OBSERVES WAKE TURB EVENT WITH LNDG B737 ON RWY 27R FROM A B767 DEPARTING RWY 32R. QUESTION TO ORD LCL CTLR LESS THAN APPROPRIATE FOR THE INCIDENT.
Narrative: WAITING FOR DEP ON RWY 32R, I WITNESSED THE TWR CLRING A B767 FOR TKOF ON RWY 32R WHILE A B737 WAS ON VERY SHORT FINAL FOR RWY 27R. AS THE B737 CROSSED THE INTXN OF RWY 32R IT HAD A LARGE ROLL DEV CAUSED FROM THE B767 JET WASH. THE CAPT OF THE B737 VOICED HIS CONCERNS AND THE TWR CTLR NONCHALANTLY STATED THE CLRNC WAS WITHIN THE RULES AND REGS. I BACKED UP THE B737 PLT ON THE RADIO BY TELLING THE CTLR IT WAS TOO CLOSE AND DEFINITELY A SAFETY CONCERN AND HIS RESPONSE TO ME WAS SIMPLY 'CALL THE FAA.' THIS CTLR DID NOT TAKE ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS ACTIONS AND, WITH AN ATTITUDE LIKE HIS, HAS NO REGARD FOR SAFETY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.