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Attributes | |
ACN | 529527 |
Time | |
Date | 200110 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pit.airport |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound upper : 8000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pit.tracon tower : luk.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 600 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 529527 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | observation : observer |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited penetrated airspace none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
A direct flight from old bridge, nj, to 4i9, oh. The flight was at 8500 ft, which took us north and above pittsburgh class B airspace. We needed fuel to continue our flight and considered carrol county in ohio outside the airspace. My pilot/passenger called approach and asked if we could enter class B airspace to begin descent to carrol county. Approach had us squawk a code, recycle the transponder and squawk again. Then they asked us to squawk 7700. We were told they could not find us, asked if we had carol county in sight. We did as we were above the airport at this point. We were told to call FSS upon landing. We called and were told we had violated class B airspace. I had understood VFR restrs had been lifted since the sep/11 event. With the exception of washington, new york, chicago, I am not aware that the dimensions of class B airspace have been changed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A GA PLT DSNDS INTO THE EXTENDED AREA OF THE CLASS B AIRSPACE OF PIT AFTER XPONDER CODE IDENT FAILS WITH APCH CTLR AT PIT, PA.
Narrative: A DIRECT FLT FROM OLD BRIDGE, NJ, TO 4I9, OH. THE FLT WAS AT 8500 FT, WHICH TOOK US N AND ABOVE PITTSBURGH CLASS B AIRSPACE. WE NEEDED FUEL TO CONTINUE OUR FLT AND CONSIDERED CARROL COUNTY IN OHIO OUTSIDE THE AIRSPACE. MY PLT/PAX CALLED APCH AND ASKED IF WE COULD ENTER CLASS B AIRSPACE TO BEGIN DSCNT TO CARROL COUNTY. APCH HAD US SQUAWK A CODE, RECYCLE THE XPONDER AND SQUAWK AGAIN. THEN THEY ASKED US TO SQUAWK 7700. WE WERE TOLD THEY COULD NOT FIND US, ASKED IF WE HAD CAROL COUNTY IN SIGHT. WE DID AS WE WERE ABOVE THE ARPT AT THIS POINT. WE WERE TOLD TO CALL FSS UPON LNDG. WE CALLED AND WERE TOLD WE HAD VIOLATED CLASS B AIRSPACE. I HAD UNDERSTOOD VFR RESTRS HAD BEEN LIFTED SINCE THE SEP/11 EVENT. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WASHINGTON, NEW YORK, CHICAGO, I AM NOT AWARE THAT THE DIMENSIONS OF CLASS B AIRSPACE HAVE BEEN CHANGED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.