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Attributes | |
ACN | 529855 |
Time | |
Date | 200111 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl.airport |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 35300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10700 flight time type : 3400 |
ASRS Report | 529855 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Captain was relatively new to aircraft type. As first officer, I had over 5 yrs and 3300 hours more time in type than he did. 4TH day of 4 day trip and he was handling aircraft extremely well. We were climbing out of atl. ATC cleared us to FL350. As we climbed past approximately FL280-FL290, we encountered turbulence. Captain elected to expedite the climb. In the airbus this feature allows the aircraft to climb at best left/D speed. This feature also recalibrates when the aircraft will begin leveling off. As we passed FL340, very fast, ATC asked us to level off at FL330. Instead of letting the aircraft stop the climb at FL350 then descend, the captain activated the 'zero vertical rate' button. This once again forced the aircraft to recalibrate its leveloff. The airbus on autoplt will try to maintain zero G's in any maneuver. Because of this, the aircraft leveled off at FL353. As we started descent back down to FL330, ATC requested we stay at FL350. I reminded the captain about the expedite feature, and the zero vertical speed feature and how altitude leveloff are recalibrated. I am only the copilot, however, as the 'more experienced' airbus pilot, I should have been more aggressive and suggested not using the zero vertical speed button to stop an expedite climb.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A320 CREW WAS TOLD BY ATC TO LEVEL AT FL330 WHEN THEY WERE PASSING FL340 FOR FL350 WITH A HIGH CLB RATE.
Narrative: CAPT WAS RELATIVELY NEW TO ACFT TYPE. AS FO, I HAD OVER 5 YRS AND 3300 HRS MORE TIME IN TYPE THAN HE DID. 4TH DAY OF 4 DAY TRIP AND HE WAS HANDLING ACFT EXTREMELY WELL. WE WERE CLBING OUT OF ATL. ATC CLRED US TO FL350. AS WE CLBED PAST APPROX FL280-FL290, WE ENCOUNTERED TURB. CAPT ELECTED TO EXPEDITE THE CLB. IN THE AIRBUS THIS FEATURE ALLOWS THE ACFT TO CLB AT BEST L/D SPD. THIS FEATURE ALSO RECALIBRATES WHEN THE ACFT WILL BEGIN LEVELING OFF. AS WE PASSED FL340, VERY FAST, ATC ASKED US TO LEVEL OFF AT FL330. INSTEAD OF LETTING THE ACFT STOP THE CLB AT FL350 THEN DSND, THE CAPT ACTIVATED THE 'ZERO VERT RATE' BUTTON. THIS ONCE AGAIN FORCED THE ACFT TO RECALIBRATE ITS LEVELOFF. THE AIRBUS ON AUTOPLT WILL TRY TO MAINTAIN ZERO G'S IN ANY MANEUVER. BECAUSE OF THIS, THE ACFT LEVELED OFF AT FL353. AS WE STARTED DSCNT BACK DOWN TO FL330, ATC REQUESTED WE STAY AT FL350. I REMINDED THE CAPT ABOUT THE EXPEDITE FEATURE, AND THE ZERO VERT SPD FEATURE AND HOW ALT LEVELOFF ARE RECALIBRATED. I AM ONLY THE COPLT, HOWEVER, AS THE 'MORE EXPERIENCED' AIRBUS PLT, I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE AGGRESSIVE AND SUGGESTED NOT USING THE ZERO VERT SPD BUTTON TO STOP AN EXPEDITE CLB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.