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Attributes | |
ACN | 530314 |
Time | |
Date | 200111 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
State Reference | MS |
Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | SF 340A |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 42 flight time total : 2000 flight time type : 125 |
ASRS Report | 530314 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
I called houston from the ground at pib for a clearance and the controller cleared me and I read back 'cleared direct mei, maintain 4000 ft, expect 7000 ft 10 mins, void time XA50Z, intentions by XA55Z. Our passenger were being delayed clearing security, so I called back and the controller gave us a new void time of XB00Z. The captain and I completed our first flight of the day items, it was my leg so I briefed departure. 'This will be a right seat takeoff standard company calls and procedures...cleared to 4000 ft, looks like it will be a 015 degrees.' the captain said, 'no, it's right on 020 degrees.' we took off at approximately XA55Z. Climbing out the captain called ZHU and reported off pib climbing to 4000 ft. The controller said, 'let me know when you are over the lby VOR.' captain, 'we are.' controller, 'I am confused, identify!' 'I show you 8 mi from the VOR.' captain, 'we passed the VOR.' controller,' I have radar. You never were over the VOR. Next time, be sure to fly your cleared routing, contact ZME. The captain and I discussed our clearance and confirmed that we heard the same clearance from the initial controller. The captain also said that direct was the normal routing given on this trip. The captain called back the controller and let him know that we were cleared direct. The controller said again, 'contact ZME.' our conclusion is that the first controller turned the sector over at XA00 local and between the first controller and the second controller, they did not communicate to each other that our clearance was different from our routing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZHU CTLR QUESTIONS SF34 FLC'S FLOWN ROUTING AS DIFFERENT FROM THE FILED ROUTING.
Narrative: I CALLED HOUSTON FROM THE GND AT PIB FOR A CLRNC AND THE CTLR CLRED ME AND I READ BACK 'CLRED DIRECT MEI, MAINTAIN 4000 FT, EXPECT 7000 FT 10 MINS, VOID TIME XA50Z, INTENTIONS BY XA55Z. OUR PAX WERE BEING DELAYED CLRING SECURITY, SO I CALLED BACK AND THE CTLR GAVE US A NEW VOID TIME OF XB00Z. THE CAPT AND I COMPLETED OUR FIRST FLT OF THE DAY ITEMS, IT WAS MY LEG SO I BRIEFED DEP. 'THIS WILL BE A R SEAT TKOF STANDARD COMPANY CALLS AND PROCS...CLRED TO 4000 FT, LOOKS LIKE IT WILL BE A 015 DEGS.' THE CAPT SAID, 'NO, IT'S R ON 020 DEGS.' WE TOOK OFF AT APPROX XA55Z. CLBING OUT THE CAPT CALLED ZHU AND RPTED OFF PIB CLBING TO 4000 FT. THE CTLR SAID, 'LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU ARE OVER THE LBY VOR.' CAPT, 'WE ARE.' CTLR, 'I AM CONFUSED, IDENT!' 'I SHOW YOU 8 MI FROM THE VOR.' CAPT, 'WE PASSED THE VOR.' CTLR,' I HAVE RADAR. YOU NEVER WERE OVER THE VOR. NEXT TIME, BE SURE TO FLY YOUR CLRED ROUTING, CONTACT ZME. THE CAPT AND I DISCUSSED OUR CLRNC AND CONFIRMED THAT WE HEARD THE SAME CLRNC FROM THE INITIAL CTLR. THE CAPT ALSO SAID THAT DIRECT WAS THE NORMAL ROUTING GIVEN ON THIS TRIP. THE CAPT CALLED BACK THE CTLR AND LET HIM KNOW THAT WE WERE CLRED DIRECT. THE CTLR SAID AGAIN, 'CONTACT ZME.' OUR CONCLUSION IS THAT THE FIRST CTLR TURNED THE SECTOR OVER AT XA00 LCL AND BTWN THE FIRST CTLR AND THE SECOND CTLR, THEY DID NOT COMMUNICATE TO EACH OTHER THAT OUR CLRNC WAS DIFFERENT FROM OUR ROUTING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.