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C172 student and instrument instructor did not file the route they intended to fly on an IFR clearance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 530439 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200111 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : csg.airport |
| State Reference | GA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : csg.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : instructional |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : v321.airway |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : trainee |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 19 flight time total : 78 flight time type : 77 |
| ASRS Report | 530439 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | instruction : instructor |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
When filing my flight plan, there was a misunderstanding between me and the FSS operator. I filed csg to csg. My trip was to go from columbus to birmingham for a touch-and-go and back to columbus. He never asked for my route of flight, he just took it as direct. I took it as he did not need to know that I was planning on taking V321 then V168 to bhm. I later learned that this was a mistake on my part. While in-flight, the controller came on and questioned me about my route of flight. I explained to him to conversation that I had with the FSS operator and then amended the flight plan. He then gave me permission to take the airways. Once I got back to the airport, I then learned from another instructor that was not a real minor situation. I understand that I made a mistake and have learned from it. During this flight, I also learned that I am not supposed to file as me being PIC. My instructor's name is supposed to go down on that during IFR training. I have learned from my mistake like most people and do not feel like I put anyone in real danger.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 STUDENT AND INST INSTRUCTOR DID NOT FILE THE RTE THEY INTENDED TO FLY ON AN IFR CLRNC.
Narrative: WHEN FILING MY FLT PLAN, THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING BTWN ME AND THE FSS OPERATOR. I FILED CSG TO CSG. MY TRIP WAS TO GO FROM COLUMBUS TO BIRMINGHAM FOR A TOUCH-AND-GO AND BACK TO COLUMBUS. HE NEVER ASKED FOR MY RTE OF FLT, HE JUST TOOK IT AS DIRECT. I TOOK IT AS HE DID NOT NEED TO KNOW THAT I WAS PLANNING ON TAKING V321 THEN V168 TO BHM. I LATER LEARNED THAT THIS WAS A MISTAKE ON MY PART. WHILE INFLT, THE CTLR CAME ON AND QUESTIONED ME ABOUT MY RTE OF FLT. I EXPLAINED TO HIM TO CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH THE FSS OPERATOR AND THEN AMENDED THE FLT PLAN. HE THEN GAVE ME PERMISSION TO TAKE THE AIRWAYS. ONCE I GOT BACK TO THE ARPT, I THEN LEARNED FROM ANOTHER INSTRUCTOR THAT WAS NOT A REAL MINOR SIT. I UNDERSTAND THAT I MADE A MISTAKE AND HAVE LEARNED FROM IT. DURING THIS FLT, I ALSO LEARNED THAT I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO FILE AS ME BEING PIC. MY INSTRUCTOR'S NAME IS SUPPOSED TO GO DOWN ON THAT DURING IFR TRAINING. I HAVE LEARNED FROM MY MISTAKE LIKE MOST PEOPLE AND DO NOT FEEL LIKE I PUT ANYONE IN REAL DANGER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.