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Attributes | |
ACN | 530657 |
Time | |
Date | 200111 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | intersection : clarr |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10300 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : l30.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | arrival star : skebr1 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 530657 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew faa : investigated |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
On descent into las, lax center cleared us to descend via the skebr one arrival. Just prior to clarr X, las approach cleared us to descend via the skebr one arrival, except descend and maintain 9000 ft. We continued to descend as instructed. At 10300 ft, las approach called and said he wanted us at 11000 ft. We climbed to 11000 ft and I asked for his phone number. After landing, I called las TRACON. He looked at the approach plate and agreed we had been given an improperly stated clearance. The controllersouth intent was for us to cross povoc fix at 9000 ft instead of 8000 ft. He said no harm, no foul. These were new approachs and he would talk with the controller.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: S80 FLC CALLS L30 AFTER LNDG TO DISCUSS SKEBR RNAV STAR CLRNC.
Narrative: ON DESCENT INTO LAS, LAX CTR CLRED US TO DESCEND VIA THE SKEBR ONE ARR. JUST PRIOR TO CLARR X, LAS APCH CLRED US TO DESCEND VIA THE SKEBR ONE ARR, EXCEPT DESCEND AND MAINTAIN 9000 FT. WE CONTINUED TO DESCEND AS INSTRUCTED. AT 10300 FT, LAS APCH CALLED AND SAID HE WANTED US AT 11000 FT. WE CLIMBED TO 11000 FT AND I ASKED FOR HIS PHONE NUMBER. AFTER LNDG, I CALLED LAS TRACON. HE LOOKED AT THE APCH PLATE AND AGREED WE HAD BEEN GIVEN AN IMPROPERLY STATED CLRNC. THE CTLRS INTENT WAS FOR US TO CROSS POVOC FIX AT 9000 FT INSTEAD OF 8000 FT. HE SAID NO HARM, NO FOUL. THESE WERE NEW APCHS AND HE WOULD TALK WITH THE CTLR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.