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Attributes | |
ACN | 531613 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : pom.vortac |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 6000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : pbi.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Golden Eagle 421 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 1700 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 531613 |
Person 2 | |
Function | other personnel other |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation Operational Error |
Narrative:
At lgb received clearance to fox field via runway heading, turn left at 800 ft heading 200 degrees, radar vectors sli-V8-V363-V186-V459-V201-pmd, direct fox 3000 ft expect 10000 ft in 10 min, departure frequency 127.2. (Flight under hood with instructor pilot.) when turning onto V363, controller assigned heading of '330 degree radar vectors V459.' a vector of 330 degree was toward mountainous terrain above altitude of aircraft. The next communication from controller was when aircraft north of pomona VOR, and this communication was initiated by the PIC, not the controller. The controller immediately handed us off to new controller. New controller directed an immediate heading change to 270 degree with an immediate climb to 8000 ft for terrain avoidance. If we had been in the clouds and had not established our own 'safety fence' we would have flown into a mountain at our altitude and the assigned vector. Callback conversation with the reporter revealed the following information: the reporter revealed that there appeared to be a loss of awareness on the part of the first controller and no handoff was made. After the handoff the receiving controller was aware of the situation and had been concerned about it. The instructor had directed a turn away from the approaching terrain without clearance while the situation was being resolved.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A VECTOR TOWARD RISING TERRAIN AND A LATE HANDOFF CAUSE CONCERN TO A FLC ON AN IFR INSTRUMENT TRAINING FLT.
Narrative: AT LGB RECEIVED CLRNC TO FOX FIELD VIA RWY HEADING, TURN LEFT AT 800 FT HEADING 200 DEGS, RADAR VECTORS SLI-V8-V363-V186-V459-V201-PMD, DIRECT FOX 3000 FT EXPECT 10000 FT IN 10 MIN, DEP FREQ 127.2. (FLT UNDER HOOD WITH INSTRUCTOR PLT.) WHEN TURNING ONTO V363, CTLR ASSIGNED HEADING OF '330 DEG RADAR VECTORS V459.' A VECTOR OF 330 DEG WAS TOWARD MOUNTAINOUS TERRAIN ABOVE ALT OF ACFT. THE NEXT COMMUNICATION FROM CTLR WAS WHEN ACFT N OF POMONA VOR, AND THIS COMMUNICATION WAS INITIATED BY THE PIC, NOT THE CTLR. THE CTLR IMMEDIATELY HANDED US OFF TO NEW CTLR. NEW CTLR DIRECTED AN IMMEDIATE HEADING CHANGE TO 270 DEG WITH AN IMMEDIATE CLIMB TO 8000 FT FOR TERRAIN AVOIDANCE. IF WE HAD BEEN IN THE CLOUDS AND HAD NOT ESTABLISHED OUR OWN 'SAFETY FENCE' WE WOULD HAVE FLOWN INTO A MOUNTAIN AT OUR ALT AND THE ASSIGNED VECTOR. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH THE RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR REVEALED THAT THERE APPEARED TO BE A LOSS OF AWARENESS ON THE PART OF THE FIRST CTLR AND NO HANDOFF WAS MADE. AFTER THE HANDOFF THE RECEIVING CTLR WAS AWARE OF THE SIT AND HAD BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT IT. THE INSTRUCTOR HAD DIRECTED A TURN AWAY FROM THE APCHING TERRAIN WITHOUT CLRNC WHILE THE SIT WAS BEING RESOLVED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.