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Attributes | |
ACN | 533559 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tul.airport |
State Reference | OK |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 8000 msl bound upper : 15000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Thunderstorm Turbulence |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zkc.artcc tracon : tul.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 533559 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter : turbulence |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
Departing south out of tulsa, ok, we were assigned to a northeast heading and new altitude of 15000 ft by tul departure. We were then told to contact ZKC on a new frequency. As I was turning the aircraft northeast, my first officer and I noticed a cumulus layer of clouds in that direction. I asked my first officer to turn the WX radar on to look for any precipitation. As he did, we immediately received a radar control fault message which meant it was unreliable. We quickly tried to establish communication with ZKC so that we could get vectors away from any cumulus activity but were unable to establish contact with them. As we continued the climb to our assigned altitude, the aircraft began tossing and turning uncomfortably into the clouds. We returned to our original radio frequency and informed the previous controller of our situation. He strongly suggested that we try the assigned frequency once more. We acknowledged his request but were still unsuccessful establishing contact. Again, we returned to our original radio frequency and strenuously requested vectors away from the convective activity and that ZKC was not answering our call. Realizing the situation we were in, he finally vectored us away from the activity and requested that we try the same frequency he had assigned us again. After a third attempt, we were finally able to establish contact with ZKC and received further vectors. Despite our unreliable radar, this event could have been avoided if ATC had been monitoring the WX as they were vectoring us out of tulsa and taken the tone of our request as a sign that something is wrong, even though they were informed of our situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL65 CREW HAD THE ACFT WX RADAR FAIL WHEN BEING VECTORED TOWARD CONVECTIVE ACTIVITY.
Narrative: DEPARTING S OUT OF TULSA, OK, WE WERE ASSIGNED TO A NE HDG AND NEW ALT OF 15000 FT BY TUL DEP. WE WERE THEN TOLD TO CONTACT ZKC ON A NEW FREQ. AS I WAS TURNING THE ACFT NE, MY FO AND I NOTICED A CUMULUS LAYER OF CLOUDS IN THAT DIRECTION. I ASKED MY FO TO TURN THE WX RADAR ON TO LOOK FOR ANY PRECIP. AS HE DID, WE IMMEDIATELY RECEIVED A RADAR CTL FAULT MESSAGE WHICH MEANT IT WAS UNRELIABLE. WE QUICKLY TRIED TO ESTABLISH COM WITH ZKC SO THAT WE COULD GET VECTORS AWAY FROM ANY CUMULUS ACTIVITY BUT WERE UNABLE TO ESTABLISH CONTACT WITH THEM. AS WE CONTINUED THE CLB TO OUR ASSIGNED ALT, THE ACFT BEGAN TOSSING AND TURNING UNCOMFORTABLY INTO THE CLOUDS. WE RETURNED TO OUR ORIGINAL RADIO FREQ AND INFORMED THE PREVIOUS CTLR OF OUR SIT. HE STRONGLY SUGGESTED THAT WE TRY THE ASSIGNED FREQ ONCE MORE. WE ACKNOWLEDGED HIS REQUEST BUT WERE STILL UNSUCCESSFUL ESTABLISHING CONTACT. AGAIN, WE RETURNED TO OUR ORIGINAL RADIO FREQ AND STRENUOUSLY REQUESTED VECTORS AWAY FROM THE CONVECTIVE ACTIVITY AND THAT ZKC WAS NOT ANSWERING OUR CALL. REALIZING THE SIT WE WERE IN, HE FINALLY VECTORED US AWAY FROM THE ACTIVITY AND REQUESTED THAT WE TRY THE SAME FREQ HE HAD ASSIGNED US AGAIN. AFTER A THIRD ATTEMPT, WE WERE FINALLY ABLE TO ESTABLISH CONTACT WITH ZKC AND RECEIVED FURTHER VECTORS. DESPITE OUR UNRELIABLE RADAR, THIS EVENT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF ATC HAD BEEN MONITORING THE WX AS THEY WERE VECTORING US OUT OF TULSA AND TAKEN THE TONE OF OUR REQUEST AS A SIGN THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE INFORMED OF OUR SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.