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Attributes | |
ACN | 534450 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : atl.vortac |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl single value : 22000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Super 80 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : ztl.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Stratolifter 717 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 6700 flight time type : 1400 |
ASRS Report | 534450 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 533781 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 700 vertical : 250 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Descending into atl, macey arrival. Last clearance was to descend to 13000 ft. We were being vectored off arrival for spacing. Passing FL220, we got a TA on TCASII. It was a B717 at our 11 O'clock position and 1000 ft above descending. Since he was descending faster than us, we soon got an RA when he was about 700 ft vertically above us (still 2-3 NM ahead at our 1 O'clock position moving left to right). We had him in sight the entire event and did not need to make evasive maneuvers. We just increased our rate of descent. The B717 was instructed to level off and was asked what his last assigned altitude was. He responded 'FL220.' the only other comments made about the situation were by ATC when the B717 was instructed to change to the next frequency. The controller said 'thanks for your help.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: UNREGULATED DSCNT RATE OF A B717 CAUSES CONFLICT WITH DSNDING MD88 UNDER ZTL CTL.
Narrative: DSNDING INTO ATL, MACEY ARR. LAST CLRNC WAS TO DSND TO 13000 FT. WE WERE BEING VECTORED OFF ARR FOR SPACING. PASSING FL220, WE GOT A TA ON TCASII. IT WAS A B717 AT OUR 11 O'CLOCK POS AND 1000 FT ABOVE DSNDING. SINCE HE WAS DSNDING FASTER THAN US, WE SOON GOT AN RA WHEN HE WAS ABOUT 700 FT VERTLY ABOVE US (STILL 2-3 NM AHEAD AT OUR 1 O'CLOCK POS MOVING L TO R). WE HAD HIM IN SIGHT THE ENTIRE EVENT AND DID NOT NEED TO MAKE EVASIVE MANEUVERS. WE JUST INCREASED OUR RATE OF DSCNT. THE B717 WAS INSTRUCTED TO LEVEL OFF AND WAS ASKED WHAT HIS LAST ASSIGNED ALT WAS. HE RESPONDED 'FL220.' THE ONLY OTHER COMMENTS MADE ABOUT THE SIT WERE BY ATC WHEN THE B717 WAS INSTRUCTED TO CHANGE TO THE NEXT FREQ. THE CTLR SAID 'THANKS FOR YOUR HELP.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.