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Attributes | |
ACN | 534540 |
Time | |
Date | 200201 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation II S2/Bravo |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb 5 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 534540 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 6700 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 534542 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Prior to departure runway 24 at teb, we reviewed the procedure. It involves a prompt leveloff at 1500 ft, a turn, then a climb to 2000 ft after about 5 mi. The PF said he was well acquainted with the procedure and he recited it almost verbatim from memory. Climb was normal. I called approaching 1500 ft. We went slightly through 1500 ft. The PF initiated a turn, pointed to the altitude selector and said '2000 ft.' preselecting is not a normal procedure in a situation like this and I 'waived off' the change. (There was some radio chatter at the time.) the PF selected the altitude himself then pwred up. I checked the DME to see if I had missed the climb fix. We were already at 1600 ft at that time and the controller spotted the altitude increase immediately -- about 1700 ft as I recall. Honest 2-PLT flying, as specified in the company manual, would not allow this to happen: both pilots must agree to the altitude change, transition fixes should be verbalized. Supplemental information from acn 534542: ATC then iterated the altitude should be 1500 ft when I was at 1700 ft, and an immediate descent was made to 1500 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C550 CREW, DEPARTING TEB, OVERSHOT ASSIGNED ALT ON DEP.
Narrative: PRIOR TO DEP RWY 24 AT TEB, WE REVIEWED THE PROC. IT INVOLVES A PROMPT LEVELOFF AT 1500 FT, A TURN, THEN A CLB TO 2000 FT AFTER ABOUT 5 MI. THE PF SAID HE WAS WELL ACQUAINTED WITH THE PROC AND HE RECITED IT ALMOST VERBATIM FROM MEMORY. CLB WAS NORMAL. I CALLED APCHING 1500 FT. WE WENT SLIGHTLY THROUGH 1500 FT. THE PF INITIATED A TURN, POINTED TO THE ALT SELECTOR AND SAID '2000 FT.' PRESELECTING IS NOT A NORMAL PROC IN A SIT LIKE THIS AND I 'WAIVED OFF' THE CHANGE. (THERE WAS SOME RADIO CHATTER AT THE TIME.) THE PF SELECTED THE ALT HIMSELF THEN PWRED UP. I CHKED THE DME TO SEE IF I HAD MISSED THE CLB FIX. WE WERE ALREADY AT 1600 FT AT THAT TIME AND THE CTLR SPOTTED THE ALT INCREASE IMMEDIATELY -- ABOUT 1700 FT AS I RECALL. HONEST 2-PLT FLYING, AS SPECIFIED IN THE COMPANY MANUAL, WOULD NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN: BOTH PLTS MUST AGREE TO THE ALT CHANGE, TRANSITION FIXES SHOULD BE VERBALIZED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 534542: ATC THEN ITERATED THE ALT SHOULD BE 1500 FT WHEN I WAS AT 1700 FT, AND AN IMMEDIATE DSCNT WAS MADE TO 1500 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.