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Attributes | |
ACN | 534619 |
Time | |
Date | 200112 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : anc.airport |
State Reference | AK |
Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Fog |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : a11.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B747-100 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 11000 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 534619 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
As is typical in winter, anc WX went below forecast. Nearing whitehorse, WX deteriorated to 1/4 mi visibility in ice and fog. A plan was developed, including a fuel at which we would divert to alternate which was 40000 pounds (we estimated arriving over anc with 60000 pounds). Once on downwind at anc, WX was varying rapidly with RVR ranging from 1600 ft to 2000 ft. The captain (new) advised the controller that we needed 1800 ft RVR to accept an approach clearance. On base leg, TRACON advised '...touchdown 1600 ft, mid 1800 ft, rollout 2000 ft...' and cleared us for approach. I queried the captain if this was legal (keeping in mind we were outside of FAF) and he said as long as one of the 3 RVR's was above minimums, it was legal. I landed with no problem, but now am unable to determine the truth.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B747-100 CREW STARTED THE APCH WITH TOUCHDOWN RVR BELOW LNDG MINIMUMS AT ANC.
Narrative: AS IS TYPICAL IN WINTER, ANC WX WENT BELOW FORECAST. NEARING WHITEHORSE, WX DETERIORATED TO 1/4 MI VISIBILITY IN ICE AND FOG. A PLAN WAS DEVELOPED, INCLUDING A FUEL AT WHICH WE WOULD DIVERT TO ALTERNATE WHICH WAS 40000 LBS (WE ESTIMATED ARRIVING OVER ANC WITH 60000 LBS). ONCE ON DOWNWIND AT ANC, WX WAS VARYING RAPIDLY WITH RVR RANGING FROM 1600 FT TO 2000 FT. THE CAPT (NEW) ADVISED THE CTLR THAT WE NEEDED 1800 FT RVR TO ACCEPT AN APCH CLRNC. ON BASE LEG, TRACON ADVISED '...TOUCHDOWN 1600 FT, MID 1800 FT, ROLLOUT 2000 FT...' AND CLRED US FOR APCH. I QUERIED THE CAPT IF THIS WAS LEGAL (KEEPING IN MIND WE WERE OUTSIDE OF FAF) AND HE SAID AS LONG AS ONE OF THE 3 RVR'S WAS ABOVE MINIMUMS, IT WAS LEGAL. I LANDED WITH NO PROB, BUT NOW AM UNABLE TO DETERMINE THE TRUTH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.