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Attributes | |
ACN | 535182 |
Time | |
Date | 200201 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pns.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : pns.tower tower : hou.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 17 other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 5200 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 535182 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After being on duty since XA05 am in the morning, we departed for gpt at XN15. At the time of departure, the WX at gpt was above and forecast to be above landing minimums. When we arrived in the gpt area the WX was below landing minimums, dispatcher and I agreed to divert to pns, pensacola. An alternate airport was required on our release, so fuel was not too big a problem considering that the WX in pns was 4 mi visibility at the time of our divert. 30 mi out of pns, the visibility dropped to 3/4 of a mi, we were planning on the ILS to runway 17, which require 1/2 mi or 2400 ft RVR. While getting vectored onto the final approach course and just outside the FAF, the tower controller reported the RVR as 2000 ft touchdown zone and 5000 ft rollout. At the time we were now low on fuel and very fatigued due to the long duty day. I couldn't remember if we needed both RVR's to be above 2400 ft. With low fuel and the runway in sight, including the touchdown zone lighting and marking, I elected to land. Prior to the landing, while inside the final approach fix, the tower controller called the touchdown zone RVR at 1800 ft and the rollout RVR at 2000 ft. Under the fatigue, my decision to continue the approach I question. Have yet to determine if we violated far's by initiating the approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CARJ CREW, LOW ON FUEL, LANDED AT PNS WITH WX BELOW MINIMUMS.
Narrative: AFTER BEING ON DUTY SINCE XA05 AM IN THE MORNING, WE DEPARTED FOR GPT AT XN15. AT THE TIME OF DEP, THE WX AT GPT WAS ABOVE AND FORECAST TO BE ABOVE LNDG MINIMUMS. WHEN WE ARRIVED IN THE GPT AREA THE WX WAS BELOW LNDG MINIMUMS, DISPATCHER AND I AGREED TO DIVERT TO PNS, PENSACOLA. AN ALTERNATE ARPT WAS REQUIRED ON OUR RELEASE, SO FUEL WAS NOT TOO BIG A PROB CONSIDERING THAT THE WX IN PNS WAS 4 MI VISIBILITY AT THE TIME OF OUR DIVERT. 30 MI OUT OF PNS, THE VISIBILITY DROPPED TO 3/4 OF A MI, WE WERE PLANNING ON THE ILS TO RWY 17, WHICH REQUIRE 1/2 MI OR 2400 FT RVR. WHILE GETTING VECTORED ONTO THE FINAL APCH COURSE AND JUST OUTSIDE THE FAF, THE TWR CTLR RPTED THE RVR AS 2000 FT TOUCHDOWN ZONE AND 5000 FT ROLLOUT. AT THE TIME WE WERE NOW LOW ON FUEL AND VERY FATIGUED DUE TO THE LONG DUTY DAY. I COULDN'T REMEMBER IF WE NEEDED BOTH RVR'S TO BE ABOVE 2400 FT. WITH LOW FUEL AND THE RWY IN SIGHT, INCLUDING THE TOUCHDOWN ZONE LIGHTING AND MARKING, I ELECTED TO LAND. PRIOR TO THE LNDG, WHILE INSIDE THE FINAL APCH FIX, THE TWR CTLR CALLED THE TOUCHDOWN ZONE RVR AT 1800 FT AND THE ROLLOUT RVR AT 2000 FT. UNDER THE FATIGUE, MY DECISION TO CONTINUE THE APCH I QUESTION. HAVE YET TO DETERMINE IF WE VIOLATED FAR'S BY INITIATING THE APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.