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An A319 flight descends below the assigned altitude crossing restr for turbojets on the olm 3 arrival when the first officer sets in the altitude used for turboprops, 5 NM from olm, wa.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 535250 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200201 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : olm.vortac |
| State Reference | WA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | A319 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 21000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 535250 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to assigned altitude flight crew : became reoriented |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Chart Or Publication |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| Chart | star : olympia |
Narrative:
8 1/2 hours prior to event we departed dfw. With 1 stop and a plane change in phx bound for pdx, we held 1/2 hour prior to diverting to sea for WX. On descent via the olympia 3 arrival, which we were cleared for, we selected 10000 ft on the altitude reminder (instead of 12000 for turbojets). ATC questioned our altitude, which we read back. He then cleared us to cross olm at 12000 ft, which we did. It may be beneficial to list the more restrictive (higher) altitudes first, in descending order, as well as turbojet aircraft prior to turboprop aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN A319 FLT DSNDS BELOW THE ASSIGNED ALT XING RESTR FOR TURBOJETS ON THE OLM 3 ARR WHEN THE FO SETS IN THE ALT USED FOR TURBOPROPS, 5 NM FROM OLM, WA.
Narrative: 8 1/2 HRS PRIOR TO EVENT WE DEPARTED DFW. WITH 1 STOP AND A PLANE CHANGE IN PHX BOUND FOR PDX, WE HELD 1/2 HR PRIOR TO DIVERTING TO SEA FOR WX. ON DSCNT VIA THE OLYMPIA 3 ARR, WHICH WE WERE CLRED FOR, WE SELECTED 10000 FT ON THE ALT REMINDER (INSTEAD OF 12000 FOR TURBOJETS). ATC QUESTIONED OUR ALT, WHICH WE READ BACK. HE THEN CLRED US TO CROSS OLM AT 12000 FT, WHICH WE DID. IT MAY BE BENEFICIAL TO LIST THE MORE RESTRICTIVE (HIGHER) ALTS FIRST, IN DSNDING ORDER, AS WELL AS TURBOJET ACFT PRIOR TO TURBOPROP ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.