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Attributes | |
ACN | 535652 |
Time | |
Date | 200201 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : cvo.airport |
State Reference | OR |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | A109 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 4700 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 535652 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Consequence | other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 100 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Upon taking off downwind in my helicopter from the taxiway of the uncontrolled airport and while paralleling the active runway to my right, I could see a landing airplane descending over the runway in my direction. We passed with 200 ft lateral and 100 ft vertical separation. We each had visual contact with the other at all times. I felt there was no conflict. We were each remaining clear of the other. Clearly, from his next radio call, the landing airplane did not like my helicopter. To prevent his discomfort, the FAA should change the aim requirement that helicopters not use the fixed wing pattern, and allow helicopters to use the same patterns as airplanes at all airports.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POSSIBLE NMAC. AN AGUSTA A109 HIRUNDO HELI PLT DEPARTS A NON TWR ARPT USING THE TXWY PARALLEL TO THE ACTIVE RWY WHILE A C172 PLT IS LNDG ON THAT RWY AT CVO, OR.
Narrative: UPON TAKING OFF DOWNWIND IN MY HELI FROM THE TXWY OF THE UNCTLED ARPT AND WHILE PARALLELING THE ACTIVE RWY TO MY R, I COULD SEE A LNDG AIRPLANE DSNDING OVER THE RWY IN MY DIRECTION. WE PASSED WITH 200 FT LATERAL AND 100 FT VERT SEPARATION. WE EACH HAD VISUAL CONTACT WITH THE OTHER AT ALL TIMES. I FELT THERE WAS NO CONFLICT. WE WERE EACH REMAINING CLR OF THE OTHER. CLRLY, FROM HIS NEXT RADIO CALL, THE LNDG AIRPLANE DID NOT LIKE MY HELI. TO PREVENT HIS DISCOMFORT, THE FAA SHOULD CHANGE THE AIM REQUIREMENT THAT HELIS NOT USE THE FIXED WING PATTERN, AND ALLOW HELIS TO USE THE SAME PATTERNS AS AIRPLANES AT ALL ARPTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.