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After receiving a landing clearance and landing, the crew was initially unable to contact the tower for clearance to go to ground frequency.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 536078 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200201 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cha.airport |
| State Reference | IN |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : msp.tower |
| Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 130 flight time total : 2100 flight time type : 60 |
| ASRS Report | 536078 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 78 flight time total : 2500 flight time type : 950 |
| ASRS Report | 535932 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were on approach into cha, tn. We were at the approximately position of 3000-4000 ft somewhere outside of the marker for ILS to runway 20 at cha, and we had just switched to tower from approach. On initial contact with tower, we received our landing clearance. Verified by my turning on the taxi light. After landing my first officer also a captain in the airplane tried to call tower for the frequency change to ground she tried 3 separate times then switched to ground and tried there, which did not initially contact anybody. The response we received sounded to us like tower had not actually issued us a landing clearance. Once out of the airplane, we called the tower on the telephone and asked for clarification. The person we talked to said that there was a shift change going on and some miscom/confusion was keeping them busy. What all that was involved, I was not informed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER RECEIVING A LNDG CLRNC AND LNDG, THE CREW WAS INITIALLY UNABLE TO CONTACT THE TWR FOR CLRNC TO GO TO GND FREQ.
Narrative: WE WERE ON APCH INTO CHA, TN. WE WERE AT THE APPROX POS OF 3000-4000 FT SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE OF THE MARKER FOR ILS TO RWY 20 AT CHA, AND WE HAD JUST SWITCHED TO TWR FROM APCH. ON INITIAL CONTACT WITH TWR, WE RECEIVED OUR LNDG CLRNC. VERIFIED BY MY TURNING ON THE TAXI LIGHT. AFTER LNDG MY FO ALSO A CAPT IN THE AIRPLANE TRIED TO CALL TWR FOR THE FREQ CHANGE TO GND SHE TRIED 3 SEPARATE TIMES THEN SWITCHED TO GND AND TRIED THERE, WHICH DID NOT INITIALLY CONTACT ANYBODY. THE RESPONSE WE RECEIVED SOUNDED TO US LIKE TWR HAD NOT ACTUALLY ISSUED US A LNDG CLRNC. ONCE OUT OF THE AIRPLANE, WE CALLED THE TWR ON THE TELEPHONE AND ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION. THE PERSON WE TALKED TO SAID THAT THERE WAS A SHIFT CHANGE GOING ON AND SOME MISCOM/CONFUSION WAS KEEPING THEM BUSY. WHAT ALL THAT WAS INVOLVED, I WAS NOT INFORMED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.