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Attributes | |
ACN | 536698 |
Time | |
Date | 200201 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : oma.airport |
State Reference | NE |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation III, VI, VII |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : holding |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 800 |
ASRS Report | 536698 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Taxiing to runway 36 at oma, given hold short of runway 32L on taxiway C, we did. The controller then said cleared to hold short of runway 36 on taxiway C, contact tower. We started to taxi, then stopped as the runways were intersecting at the same point at taxiway C. We never encroached runway 36, however, we crossed the hold short line. The controller was confusing. If he would have said, hold there contact tower, then we wouldn't have moved, but we did. Bottom line, we were in the wrong, but the controller's phraseology didn't help either.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CESSNA 650 FLC TAXIED PAST HOLD SHORT LINE AFTER BEING CLRED TO HOLD SHORT OF ANOTHER RWY THAN THAT FOR WHICH THEY WERE HOLDING.
Narrative: TAXIING TO RWY 36 AT OMA, GIVEN HOLD SHORT OF RWY 32L ON TXWY C, WE DID. THE CTLR THEN SAID CLRED TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 36 ON TXWY C, CONTACT TWR. WE STARTED TO TAXI, THEN STOPPED AS THE RWYS WERE INTERSECTING AT THE SAME POINT AT TXWY C. WE NEVER ENCROACHED RWY 36, HOWEVER, WE CROSSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE. THE CTLR WAS CONFUSING. IF HE WOULD HAVE SAID, HOLD THERE CONTACT TWR, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE MOVED, BUT WE DID. BOTTOM LINE, WE WERE IN THE WRONG, BUT THE CTLR'S PHRASEOLOGY DIDN'T HELP EITHER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.