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Attributes | |
ACN | 537044 |
Time | |
Date | 200201 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jnx.airport |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl single value : 1200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : rdu.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 3 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | PA-44 Seminole Turbo Seminole |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 3 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time total : 7500 |
ASRS Report | 537044 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac inflight encounter : vfr in imc inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was flying the ILS runway 3 approach at smithfield/johnson county airport (jnx), having been vectored to and cleared by seymour johnson approach control. Conditions were solid IMC. As I descended on the GS I broke out of the solid cloud layer at an estimated 1300 ft MSL and discovered I was in trail of a seminole at a distance of no more than 1000 ft, also on the ILS. The seminole subsequently called unicom and announced its position on the approach. I executed a right 360 degrees and re-entered final to land. Meanwhile the seminole made a low approach, estimated at about 500 ft and left the area. A number of issues: 1) seymour must not have had the traffic on radar. It was never mentioned. Perhaps the traffic was too low for their radar. 2) raleigh is the designated approach control on the approach procedure but, coming from wilmington, nc, I have always been vectored by seymour. Is it possible that the seminole was vectored by raleigh? Seems there is a potential for conflict but I understand the 2 organizations coordinate the shared responsibility. 3) the seminole may have been flying VFR and executed the approach on their own. If so, I would estimate they violated the 500 ft cloud clearance rule. This is a perfect example of the danger of flying into a non-twred airport where 'legitimate' VFR flts may be taking place. Callback conversation with FAA atrep revealed the following information: analyst contact with the FAA atrep for gsb revealed the reporter was properly handled. The LOA is specific as to gsb's responsibility. There was no mention of a radar coverage problem.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 PLT AND PA44 HAD LESS THAN LEGAL SEPARATION ON THE ILS APCH TO RWY 3 AT JNX IN GSB CLASS C.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING THE ILS RWY 3 APCH AT SMITHFIELD/JOHNSON COUNTY ARPT (JNX), HAVING BEEN VECTORED TO AND CLRED BY SEYMOUR JOHNSON APCH CTL. CONDITIONS WERE SOLID IMC. AS I DSNDED ON THE GS I BROKE OUT OF THE SOLID CLOUD LAYER AT AN ESTIMATED 1300 FT MSL AND DISCOVERED I WAS IN TRAIL OF A SEMINOLE AT A DISTANCE OF NO MORE THAN 1000 FT, ALSO ON THE ILS. THE SEMINOLE SUBSEQUENTLY CALLED UNICOM AND ANNOUNCED ITS POS ON THE APCH. I EXECUTED A R 360 DEGS AND RE-ENTERED FINAL TO LAND. MEANWHILE THE SEMINOLE MADE A LOW APCH, ESTIMATED AT ABOUT 500 FT AND LEFT THE AREA. A NUMBER OF ISSUES: 1) SEYMOUR MUST NOT HAVE HAD THE TFC ON RADAR. IT WAS NEVER MENTIONED. PERHAPS THE TFC WAS TOO LOW FOR THEIR RADAR. 2) RALEIGH IS THE DESIGNATED APCH CTL ON THE APCH PROC BUT, COMING FROM WILMINGTON, NC, I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN VECTORED BY SEYMOUR. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE SEMINOLE WAS VECTORED BY RALEIGH? SEEMS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR CONFLICT BUT I UNDERSTAND THE 2 ORGANIZATIONS COORDINATE THE SHARED RESPONSIBILITY. 3) THE SEMINOLE MAY HAVE BEEN FLYING VFR AND EXECUTED THE APCH ON THEIR OWN. IF SO, I WOULD ESTIMATE THEY VIOLATED THE 500 FT CLOUD CLRNC RULE. THIS IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF THE DANGER OF FLYING INTO A NON-TWRED ARPT WHERE 'LEGITIMATE' VFR FLTS MAY BE TAKING PLACE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH FAA ATREP REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: ANALYST CONTACT WITH THE FAA ATREP FOR GSB REVEALED THE RPTR WAS PROPERLY HANDLED. THE LOA IS SPECIFIC AS TO GSB'S RESPONSIBILITY. THERE WAS NO MENTION OF A RADAR COVERAGE PROB.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.