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Attributes | |
ACN | 537460 |
Time | |
Date | 200201 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 35 msl bound upper : 6300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Ice Snow |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon tower : las.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 145 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 537460 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 250 |
ASRS Report | 538931 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : overshoot other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : altimeter other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : diverted to another airport flight crew : declared emergency |
Consequence | faa : investigated other other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
On takeoff both the captain and I (I am a line holding captain in the right seat) found none of the pitch trim setting switches were working. We went into an uncontrolled climb with controls full forward. We were unable to use checklists because of the difficulty in controling the climb. We broke the climb above assigned altitude of 3000 ft. We leveled off at or around 6300 ft and airspeed increased to 260 KTS. I hand flew the aircraft back to ZZZ (with vectors-IMC) to land. An emergency was declared around 3000 ft. I don't know what caused this incident, but I do want training to avoid it if it happens again. The entire event was uncontrolled and I'm lucky to have landed the aircraft without any damage. All set up checks were done and all switches were tested. Once again, I have no idea what caused this incident. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated that shortly after rotation the cap declared no stabilizer trim and to takeover. The reporter said the stabilizer trim was also inoperative from my yoke switches and the yokes were now pushed forward to extreme limits. The reporter stated the airplane was climbing at a 20 degree angle, 6000 ft per min, and was 5 KTS from a stall. The reporter said they stopped the climb at 6300 ft and airspeed increased to 260 KTS and at that time heard a noise and some trim was regained. The reporter stated on landing neither the main electric trim nor the auxiliary trim actuators operated. The reporter said maintenance has released no information to the crew on the fix or the failed components. Callback from acn 538931: the reporter stated that on takeoff the horizontal trim moved 2 to 3 units greater than the setting for takeoff and climb and could not be corrected with the yoke switches. The reporter said all hands were required pushing forward on the yokes to arrest the climb. The reporter stated this horizontal stabilizer failure to trim in climb is a recurring problem and is serious. The reporter said maintenance replaced both yoke switches and the main electric trim actuator and were sent out for test and evaluation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN E145 CREW EXPERIENCED PITCH TRIM PROBLEMS AND AN UNCONTROLLED CLIMB FROM ROTATION TO 6300 FT. DECLARED EMER AND RETURNED TO LAND.
Narrative: ON TKOF BOTH THE CAPT AND I (I AM A LINE HOLDING CAPT IN THE R SEAT) FOUND NONE OF THE PITCH TRIM SETTING SWITCHES WERE WORKING. WE WENT INTO AN UNCONTROLLED CLIMB WITH CTLS FULL FORWARD. WE WERE UNABLE TO USE CHKLISTS BECAUSE OF THE DIFFICULTY IN CTLING THE CLIMB. WE BROKE THE CLIMB ABOVE ASSIGNED ALT OF 3000 FT. WE LEVELED OFF AT OR AROUND 6300 FT AND AIRSPEED INCREASED TO 260 KTS. I HAND FLEW THE ACFT BACK TO ZZZ (WITH VECTORS-IMC) TO LAND. AN EMER WAS DECLARED AROUND 3000 FT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT CAUSED THIS INCIDENT, BUT I DO WANT TRAINING TO AVOID IT IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN. THE ENTIRE EVENT WAS UNCONTROLLED AND I'M LUCKY TO HAVE LANDED THE ACFT WITHOUT ANY DAMAGE. ALL SET UP CHKS WERE DONE AND ALL SWITCHES WERE TESTED. ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT CAUSED THIS INCIDENT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED THAT SHORTLY AFTER ROTATION THE CAP DECLARED NO STABILIZER TRIM AND TO TAKEOVER. THE RPTR SAID THE STABILIZER TRIM WAS ALSO INOPERATIVE FROM MY YOKE SWITCHES AND THE YOKES WERE NOW PUSHED FORWARD TO EXTREME LIMITS. THE RPTR STATED THE AIRPLANE WAS CLIMBING AT A 20 DEG ANGLE, 6000 FT PER MIN, AND WAS 5 KTS FROM A STALL. THE RPTR SAID THEY STOPPED THE CLIMB AT 6300 FT AND AIRSPEED INCREASED TO 260 KTS AND AT THAT TIME HEARD A NOISE AND SOME TRIM WAS REGAINED. THE RPTR STATED ON LNDG NEITHER THE MAIN ELECTRIC TRIM NOR THE AUXILIARY TRIM ACTUATORS OPERATED. THE RPTR SAID MAINT HAS RELEASED NO INFO TO THE CREW ON THE FIX OR THE FAILED COMPONENTS. CALLBACK FROM ACN 538931: THE RPTR STATED THAT ON TKOF THE HORIZONTAL TRIM MOVED 2 TO 3 UNITS GREATER THAN THE SETTING FOR TKOF AND CLIMB AND COULD NOT BE CORRECTED WITH THE YOKE SWITCHES. THE RPTR SAID ALL HANDS WERE REQUIRED PUSHING FORWARD ON THE YOKES TO ARREST THE CLIMB. THE RPTR STATED THIS HORIZONTAL STABILIZER FAILURE TO TRIM IN CLIMB IS A RECURRING PROB AND IS SERIOUS. THE RPTR SAID MAINT REPLACED BOTH YOKE SWITCHES AND THE MAIN ELECTRIC TRIM ACTUATOR AND WERE SENT OUT FOR TEST AND EVALUATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.