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Attributes | |
ACN | 537699 |
Time | |
Date | 200202 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tpl.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 31 flight time total : 1037 flight time type : 636 |
ASRS Report | 537699 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 4000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Environmental Factor |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility procedure or policy : tpl.airport |
Narrative:
On the evening of feb/mon/02, I was scheduled for a night currency flight. After startup and listening to AWOS, I switched to the temple CTAF (123.00) and announced that I was taxiing to runway 15. During runup, I heard a couple of aircraft announcing their position at georgetown airport (gtu, CTAF also 123.00) but heard no traffic calls for temple. During runup, I observed no aircraft in the pattern, saw no aircraft land, and saw no aircraft lights on the runways or txwys. I announced that I was 'taking runway 15 for left closed traffic' and, after a visual check and receiving no answer on the radio, made a normal takeoff. As I reached about 500 ft AGL, someone came on the radio and said 'aircraft that just took off from georgetown, you're not too bright.' I announced my crosswind turn, and the same voice said 'cessna at temple, did you see us on the active?' I replied that if he was calling me that no, I had not seen or heard another aircraft. The other pilot replied 'why didn't you announce your takeoff?' I replied that I had indeed announced that I was taking runway 15 for left closed traffic, and had heard no answer and had seen no aircraft. After announcing my downwind turn, the other pilot called that he was 'on taxiway C' and 'regaining his composure.' factors: 1) night. 2) probability that the other pilot was calling 'georgetown traffic' rather than 'temple traffic.' 3) possibility that the other aircraft had landed on runway 20 and was out of my sight (runway 15 and runway 20 intersect). 4) other pilot's failure to use proper radio procedures, hear my call that I was taking runway 15 and inform me he was out there. 5) my failure to see the other aircraft. This occurrence disturbs me as a pilot and CFI. Safety is my career, my job and my responsibility. If an aircraft was on my runway or an intersecting runway, it was my duty to see him, regardless of the radio. I consider myself a safe and vigilant pilot, but I intend to redouble my efforts, particularly at non-twred fields with multiple runways.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C172 CFI ON A NIGHT OP HAS A POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH UNKNOWN LNDG TFC ON RWY 20 DURING HIS VMC DEP FROM RWY 15 AT TPL, TX.
Narrative: ON THE EVENING OF FEB/MON/02, I WAS SCHEDULED FOR A NIGHT CURRENCY FLT. AFTER STARTUP AND LISTENING TO AWOS, I SWITCHED TO THE TEMPLE CTAF (123.00) AND ANNOUNCED THAT I WAS TAXIING TO RWY 15. DURING RUNUP, I HEARD A COUPLE OF ACFT ANNOUNCING THEIR POS AT GEORGETOWN ARPT (GTU, CTAF ALSO 123.00) BUT HEARD NO TFC CALLS FOR TEMPLE. DURING RUNUP, I OBSERVED NO ACFT IN THE PATTERN, SAW NO ACFT LAND, AND SAW NO ACFT LIGHTS ON THE RWYS OR TXWYS. I ANNOUNCED THAT I WAS 'TAKING RWY 15 FOR L CLOSED TFC' AND, AFTER A VISUAL CHK AND RECEIVING NO ANSWER ON THE RADIO, MADE A NORMAL TKOF. AS I REACHED ABOUT 500 FT AGL, SOMEONE CAME ON THE RADIO AND SAID 'ACFT THAT JUST TOOK OFF FROM GEORGETOWN, YOU'RE NOT TOO BRIGHT.' I ANNOUNCED MY XWIND TURN, AND THE SAME VOICE SAID 'CESSNA AT TEMPLE, DID YOU SEE US ON THE ACTIVE?' I REPLIED THAT IF HE WAS CALLING ME THAT NO, I HAD NOT SEEN OR HEARD ANOTHER ACFT. THE OTHER PLT REPLIED 'WHY DIDN'T YOU ANNOUNCE YOUR TKOF?' I REPLIED THAT I HAD INDEED ANNOUNCED THAT I WAS TAKING RWY 15 FOR L CLOSED TFC, AND HAD HEARD NO ANSWER AND HAD SEEN NO ACFT. AFTER ANNOUNCING MY DOWNWIND TURN, THE OTHER PLT CALLED THAT HE WAS 'ON TXWY C' AND 'REGAINING HIS COMPOSURE.' FACTORS: 1) NIGHT. 2) PROBABILITY THAT THE OTHER PLT WAS CALLING 'GEORGETOWN TFC' RATHER THAN 'TEMPLE TFC.' 3) POSSIBILITY THAT THE OTHER ACFT HAD LANDED ON RWY 20 AND WAS OUT OF MY SIGHT (RWY 15 AND RWY 20 INTERSECT). 4) OTHER PLT'S FAILURE TO USE PROPER RADIO PROCS, HEAR MY CALL THAT I WAS TAKING RWY 15 AND INFORM ME HE WAS OUT THERE. 5) MY FAILURE TO SEE THE OTHER ACFT. THIS OCCURRENCE DISTURBS ME AS A PLT AND CFI. SAFETY IS MY CAREER, MY JOB AND MY RESPONSIBILITY. IF AN ACFT WAS ON MY RWY OR AN INTERSECTING RWY, IT WAS MY DUTY TO SEE HIM, REGARDLESS OF THE RADIO. I CONSIDER MYSELF A SAFE AND VIGILANT PLT, BUT I INTEND TO REDOUBLE MY EFFORTS, PARTICULARLY AT NON-TWRED FIELDS WITH MULTIPLE RWYS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.