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Attributes | |
ACN | 537873 |
Time | |
Date | 200202 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msy.airport |
State Reference | LA |
Altitude | msl single value : 300 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : msy.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 1 other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 537873 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor FAA Chart Or Publication Airport |
Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
Visual approach to runway 01 on final, on ILS course and glide slope. I noticed oil tankers parked in the river with one particular tanker parked with the bridge exactly in line with final approach. Right about 400 ft on the radio altimeter, it jumped to 300 ft. I asked tower if they knew the tanker was there and they said they do it all the time. Why? There was plenty of room in the river to park other than directly on final. Does the FAA know this? Does this affect the terps? What if another tanker has a higher bridge with taller antennas? Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: a kmsy tower specialist revealed that this on going problem had been addressed by the parties involved, through proper channels, with no determination of a solution at this time. The coast guard feels the river was there before the airport so the ships have a right to be there. The FAA's concern is, how much clearance is provided for arriving aircraft. It was stated that the height of the ships vary depending what type crane is being used to load/unload the vessel.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 CREW, ON A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 01 AT KMSY, NOTICED A 100 FT CHANGE IN THEIR RADIO ALTIMETER AS THEY PASSED OVER A SHIP IN THE RIVER.
Narrative: VISUAL APCH TO RWY 01 ON FINAL, ON ILS COURSE AND GLIDE SLOPE. I NOTICED OIL TANKERS PARKED IN THE RIVER WITH ONE PARTICULAR TANKER PARKED WITH THE BRIDGE EXACTLY IN LINE WITH FINAL APCH. R ABOUT 400 FT ON THE RADIO ALTIMETER, IT JUMPED TO 300 FT. I ASKED TWR IF THEY KNEW THE TANKER WAS THERE AND THEY SAID THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME. WHY? THERE WAS PLENTY OF ROOM IN THE RIVER TO PARK OTHER THAN DIRECTLY ON FINAL. DOES THE FAA KNOW THIS? DOES THIS AFFECT THE TERPS? WHAT IF ANOTHER TANKER HAS A HIGHER BRIDGE WITH TALLER ANTENNAS? CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: A KMSY TWR SPECIALIST REVEALED THAT THIS ON GOING PROB HAD BEEN ADDRESSED BY THE PARTIES INVOLVED, THROUGH PROPER CHANNELS, WITH NO DETERMINATION OF A SOLUTION AT THIS TIME. THE COAST GUARD FEELS THE RIVER WAS THERE BEFORE THE ARPT SO THE SHIPS HAVE A RIGHT TO BE THERE. THE FAA'S CONCERN IS, HOW MUCH CLRNC IS PROVIDED FOR ARRIVING ACFT. IT WAS STATED THAT THE HEIGHT OF THE SHIPS VARY DEPENDING WHAT TYPE CRANE IS BEING USED TO LOAD/UNLOAD THE VESSEL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.