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Attributes | |
ACN | 538131 |
Time | |
Date | 200202 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ubs.airport |
State Reference | MS |
Altitude | msl single value : 3800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : cbm.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Experimental |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : vacating altitude |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Beechcraft Twin Turboprop Jet Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : holding |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 13500 flight time type : 200 |
ASRS Report | 538131 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action none taken : detected after the fact other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
I was in descent for landing at lowndes airport, talking to columbus approach, VFR, with instructions to remain VFR and avoid the class C airspace. A military aircraft was in holding between me and the airport (unknown to me) and his TCASII activated. About this time I saw him and he was well clear of me but he executed an evasive maneuver (climb) which conflicted with a T37 that was above him. I told approach I had him in sight and approach I think gave him instructions to avoid the T37. TCASII in my experience creates problems on occasion. As an air carrier captain, I have seen times when its value was highly questionable if not downright dangerous.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EXPERIMENTAL PLT FAILED TO SEE A MIL BEECH JET IN A HOLDING PATTERN. HE CAUSED A TCASII RA WITH THE BEECH JET.
Narrative: I WAS IN DSCNT FOR LNDG AT LOWNDES ARPT, TALKING TO COLUMBUS APCH, VFR, WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO REMAIN VFR AND AVOID THE CLASS C AIRSPACE. A MIL ACFT WAS IN HOLDING BTWN ME AND THE ARPT (UNKNOWN TO ME) AND HIS TCASII ACTIVATED. ABOUT THIS TIME I SAW HIM AND HE WAS WELL CLR OF ME BUT HE EXECUTED AN EVASIVE MANEUVER (CLB) WHICH CONFLICTED WITH A T37 THAT WAS ABOVE HIM. I TOLD APCH I HAD HIM IN SIGHT AND APCH I THINK GAVE HIM INSTRUCTIONS TO AVOID THE T37. TCASII IN MY EXPERIENCE CREATES PROBS ON OCCASION. AS AN ACR CAPT, I HAVE SEEN TIMES WHEN ITS VALUE WAS HIGHLY QUESTIONABLE IF NOT DOWNRIGHT DANGEROUS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.