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B737-800 advises atl local controller that he is unable to maintain speed assigned by A80, is subsequently turned off the final and chastised by A80.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 538179 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200202 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : ajaay |
| State Reference | GA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : a80.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-800 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 740 |
| ASRS Report | 538179 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe inflight encounter : weather non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Weather ATC Human Performance Aircraft |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Cleared visual approach to maintain visual separation on aircraft at 3 mi in front of my aircraft (runway 26R, atlanta). Assigned speed of 180 KTS. Unable to maintain assigned speed for 2 mi to fix ajaay and separation from aircraft in front of us. Informed tower unable to maintain 180 KTS. Approach controller threw a childish fit and ordered us to head 360 degrees. No altitude was assigned. I had to ask for an assigned altitude. Controller was sarcastic and abusive of his authority/authorized. Executed a second visual approach, with many comments from ATC about our separation on aircraft around us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-800 ADVISES ATL LCL CTLR THAT HE IS UNABLE TO MAINTAIN SPD ASSIGNED BY A80, IS SUBSEQUENTLY TURNED OFF THE FINAL AND CHASTISED BY A80.
Narrative: CLRED VISUAL APCH TO MAINTAIN VISUAL SEPARATION ON ACFT AT 3 MI IN FRONT OF MY ACFT (RWY 26R, ATLANTA). ASSIGNED SPD OF 180 KTS. UNABLE TO MAINTAIN ASSIGNED SPD FOR 2 MI TO FIX AJAAY AND SEPARATION FROM ACFT IN FRONT OF US. INFORMED TWR UNABLE TO MAINTAIN 180 KTS. APCH CTLR THREW A CHILDISH FIT AND ORDERED US TO HEAD 360 DEGS. NO ALT WAS ASSIGNED. I HAD TO ASK FOR AN ASSIGNED ALT. CTLR WAS SARCASTIC AND ABUSIVE OF HIS AUTH. EXECUTED A SECOND VISUAL APCH, WITH MANY COMMENTS FROM ATC ABOUT OUR SEPARATION ON ACFT AROUND US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.