Near midair collision at 2000 ft between 2 GA aircraft, one arriving, one departing, 2 NM from ith, ...

Attributes
ACN	538594
Time
Date	200202
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ith.airport
State Reference	NY
Altitude	msl single value : 2000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : ith.tower
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	cruise : level
Flight Plan	None
Aircraft 2
Controlling Facilities	tower : ith.tower
Operator	general aviation : personal
Make Model Name	Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	flight crew : single pilot instruction : trainee
Qualification	pilot : private pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 6 flight time total : 530 flight time type : 60
ASRS Report	538594
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : instructor
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera other other : pax 3
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action none taken : detected after the fact
Miss Distance	horizontal : 300 vertical : 100
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Environmental Factor Aircraft ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure
Primary Problem	Environmental Factor

Narrative:

After we executed a touch and go at ith, the tower gave us instructions to depart to the north and report leaving delta airspace. He then advised us that there was a cessna approaching from the north. We announced 'looking' and continued looking, with negative results. We had 3 sets of eyes scanning the sky. We continued our climb out. At about 2000 ft, the guy in back exclaimed, 'he's on our right,' at which point I saw the cessna about 300 ft right and 100 ft above us. I immediately pushed the yoke forward to widen the gap. In this case, I'm not sure what we could have done differently. At the time we had an intermittently operational transponder, but weren't in contact with approach. We had requested a transponder check when 20 mi north during our approach. This is when we confirmed a problem. As we had VMC, we continued our flight into ith.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: NMAC AT 2000 FT BTWN 2 GA ACFT, ONE ARRIVING, ONE DEPARTING, 2 NM FROM ITH, NY.

Narrative: AFTER WE EXECUTED A TOUCH AND GO AT ITH, THE TWR GAVE US INSTRUCTIONS TO DEPART TO THE N AND RPT LEAVING DELTA AIRSPACE. HE THEN ADVISED US THAT THERE WAS A CESSNA APCHING FROM THE N. WE ANNOUNCED 'LOOKING' AND CONTINUED LOOKING, WITH NEGATIVE RESULTS. WE HAD 3 SETS OF EYES SCANNING THE SKY. WE CONTINUED OUR CLBOUT. AT ABOUT 2000 FT, THE GUY IN BACK EXCLAIMED, 'HE'S ON OUR R,' AT WHICH POINT I SAW THE CESSNA ABOUT 300 FT R AND 100 FT ABOVE US. I IMMEDIATELY PUSHED THE YOKE FORWARD TO WIDEN THE GAP. IN THIS CASE, I'M NOT SURE WHAT WE COULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY. AT THE TIME WE HAD AN INTERMITTENTLY OPERATIONAL XPONDER, BUT WEREN'T IN CONTACT WITH APCH. WE HAD REQUESTED A XPONDER CHK WHEN 20 MI N DURING OUR APCH. THIS IS WHEN WE CONFIRMED A PROB. AS WE HAD VMC, WE CONTINUED OUR FLT INTO ITH.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Near midair collision at 2000 ft between 2 GA aircraft, one arriving, one departing, 2 NM from ith, ny.