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Track deviation when a CE550 flight crew fails to follow the holding pattern limits at regle intersection, PA.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 538971 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200202 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : sbj.vor |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Citation II S2/Bravo |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival : holding pattern arrival star : jaike.jaike1 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 46 flight time total : 3406 flight time type : 107 |
| ASRS Report | 533971 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe airspace violation : exit inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course none taken : detected after the fact other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Weather Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance Aircraft Environmental Factor |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were on an IFR flight plan to teb. We were flying the jaike one arrival into teb and were given holding instructions to hold at regle intersection. We entered the hold XA20 at 8000 ft and were given an efc of XB04. We were having trouble getting the FMS to fly the holding pattern so we were doing it manually. After our first turn in holding the controller asked us to start our outbound turns a little before the holding fix. He did not say why but we guessed it was to keep from encroaching on the next sector's airspace. At XB05 we were given a further efc of XB35 and started talking about diverting to morristown or caldwell, nj. We decided on morristown and I began making radio calls to set up new transportation arrangements for our passenger. After making a call I looked over at the captain's DME to see that we were 5.4 NM past our holding fix inbound. I notified the captain of the situation and we immediately turned to the outbound course. Immediately following, the approach controller called to tell us that we had flown past the holding fix and that we needed to keep our turns inside of regle. Our collision/avoidance system showed no other aircraft in our vicinity at our altitude. There was no further comment on the situation. I believe that the distractions and stress from having to hold so long, having to divert, the passenger now being late, and having to make alternate arrangements caused the error. A contributing factor was that we were having problems with the FMS and were having to hold manually. This required more attention that we both failed to give at the correct time. In the future we need to make sure that at least one of us is watching the airplane before the other gets distracted with performing secondary functions.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TRACK DEV WHEN A CE550 FLC FAILS TO FOLLOW THE HOLDING PATTERN LIMITS AT REGLE INTXN, PA.
Narrative: WE WERE ON AN IFR FLT PLAN TO TEB. WE WERE FLYING THE JAIKE ONE ARR INTO TEB AND WERE GIVEN HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS TO HOLD AT REGLE INTXN. WE ENTERED THE HOLD XA20 AT 8000 FT AND WERE GIVEN AN EFC OF XB04. WE WERE HAVING TROUBLE GETTING THE FMS TO FLY THE HOLDING PATTERN SO WE WERE DOING IT MANUALLY. AFTER OUR FIRST TURN IN HOLDING THE CTLR ASKED US TO START OUR OUTBOUND TURNS A LITTLE BEFORE THE HOLDING FIX. HE DID NOT SAY WHY BUT WE GUESSED IT WAS TO KEEP FROM ENCROACHING ON THE NEXT SECTOR'S AIRSPACE. AT XB05 WE WERE GIVEN A FURTHER EFC OF XB35 AND STARTED TALKING ABOUT DIVERTING TO MORRISTOWN OR CALDWELL, NJ. WE DECIDED ON MORRISTOWN AND I BEGAN MAKING RADIO CALLS TO SET UP NEW TRANSPORTATION ARRANGEMENTS FOR OUR PAX. AFTER MAKING A CALL I LOOKED OVER AT THE CAPT'S DME TO SEE THAT WE WERE 5.4 NM PAST OUR HOLDING FIX INBOUND. I NOTIFIED THE CAPT OF THE SIT AND WE IMMEDIATELY TURNED TO THE OUTBOUND COURSE. IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING, THE APCH CTLR CALLED TO TELL US THAT WE HAD FLOWN PAST THE HOLDING FIX AND THAT WE NEEDED TO KEEP OUR TURNS INSIDE OF REGLE. OUR COLLISION/AVOIDANCE SYS SHOWED NO OTHER ACFT IN OUR VICINITY AT OUR ALT. THERE WAS NO FURTHER COMMENT ON THE SIT. I BELIEVE THAT THE DISTRACTIONS AND STRESS FROM HAVING TO HOLD SO LONG, HAVING TO DIVERT, THE PAX NOW BEING LATE, AND HAVING TO MAKE ALTERNATE ARRANGEMENTS CAUSED THE ERROR. A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR WAS THAT WE WERE HAVING PROBS WITH THE FMS AND WERE HAVING TO HOLD MANUALLY. THIS REQUIRED MORE ATTN THAT WE BOTH FAILED TO GIVE AT THE CORRECT TIME. IN THE FUTURE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT AT LEAST ONE OF US IS WATCHING THE AIRPLANE BEFORE THE OTHER GETS DISTRACTED WITH PERFORMING SECONDARY FUNCTIONS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.