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Attributes | |
ACN | 538968 |
Time | |
Date | 200202 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lih.airport |
State Reference | HI |
Altitude | msl single value : 1200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lih.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B717 (Formerly MD-95) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 2525 flight time type : 110 |
ASRS Report | 538968 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Cleared for the VOR/DME runway 35 approach to lihue. This approach is over open water. Perfect WX during early dusk, with unlimited visibility and light winds. We received visual approach clearance during our profile descent to 1200 ft MSL, the FAF altitude, but stayed on the approach course. Once inside the FAF, the captain selected 1000 ft on the flight control panel and 'FMS speed.' this would have us level off at the selected altitude and decelerate for confign. The captain is very experienced on this route. Literally thousands of cycles on this city pair, and this was our first time working together, so my thinking at this point was to watch and learn yet another technique for using high technology on a short flight (20 mins). Passing through 1200 ft, the aural 'landing gear' warning sounded. Captain called for the gear to be extended, and the rest of the approach and landing proceeded normally. Not so much a case of the warning reminding us to put the gear down as an example of the intersection of delaying confign to increase passenger comfort, and the airplane saying 'ok, it's time to configure now....' the approach brief we use is geared towards full instrument approachs, where the confign sequence is predetermined. During a visual approach, however, confign techniques vary widely. In the future, I will include my planned confign and speed profile in my visual approach briefs and will suggest that this become SOP.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B717 FO NOTICED THAT THE CAPT WAS REMINDED TO LOWER THE LNDG GEAR WHEN THE LNDG GEAR WARNING SOUNDED WHILE PASSING THROUGH 1200 FT. HE BELIEVED THAT THIS ITEM SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE SOONER, AND WOULD HAVE BEEN IF THE ACFT WAS NOT FLOWN BY THE FMS.
Narrative: CLRED FOR THE VOR/DME RWY 35 APCH TO LIHUE. THIS APCH IS OVER OPEN WATER. PERFECT WX DURING EARLY DUSK, WITH UNLIMITED VISIBILITY AND LIGHT WINDS. WE RECEIVED VISUAL APCH CLRNC DURING OUR PROFILE DSCNT TO 1200 FT MSL, THE FAF ALT, BUT STAYED ON THE APCH COURSE. ONCE INSIDE THE FAF, THE CAPT SELECTED 1000 FT ON THE FLT CTL PANEL AND 'FMS SPD.' THIS WOULD HAVE US LEVEL OFF AT THE SELECTED ALT AND DECELERATE FOR CONFIGN. THE CAPT IS VERY EXPERIENCED ON THIS RTE. LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF CYCLES ON THIS CITY PAIR, AND THIS WAS OUR FIRST TIME WORKING TOGETHER, SO MY THINKING AT THIS POINT WAS TO WATCH AND LEARN YET ANOTHER TECHNIQUE FOR USING HIGH TECHNOLOGY ON A SHORT FLT (20 MINS). PASSING THROUGH 1200 FT, THE AURAL 'LNDG GEAR' WARNING SOUNDED. CAPT CALLED FOR THE GEAR TO BE EXTENDED, AND THE REST OF THE APCH AND LNDG PROCEEDED NORMALLY. NOT SO MUCH A CASE OF THE WARNING REMINDING US TO PUT THE GEAR DOWN AS AN EXAMPLE OF THE INTXN OF DELAYING CONFIGN TO INCREASE PAX COMFORT, AND THE AIRPLANE SAYING 'OK, IT'S TIME TO CONFIGURE NOW....' THE APCH BRIEF WE USE IS GEARED TOWARDS FULL INST APCHS, WHERE THE CONFIGN SEQUENCE IS PREDETERMINED. DURING A VISUAL APCH, HOWEVER, CONFIGN TECHNIQUES VARY WIDELY. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL INCLUDE MY PLANNED CONFIGN AND SPD PROFILE IN MY VISUAL APCH BRIEFS AND WILL SUGGEST THAT THIS BECOME SOP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.