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Attributes | |
ACN | 539052 |
Time | |
Date | 200202 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1700 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : teb.tower |
Operator | common carrier : charter |
Make Model Name | HS 125 Series 700 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 1650 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 539052 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 2200 |
ASRS Report | 538862 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to assigned altitude flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
VOR/DME-a approach into teb, inside clifo, we noticed we were approximately 200 ft above assigned altitude and approximately 5-10 degrees to the left of course. Captain suggested flying approach at higher airspds than normal so as to provide training at operating the aircraft at faster speeds inside the class B airspace. The increase in speed was administered around the midway point of the published approach, ie, between wanes and jaymo. As first officer, I was not used to flying the particular approach at such fast speeds and I was not trained (prior or since) to fly approachs at the faster speed. Returned to instrument scan after visually scanning for traffic outside the aircraft. Immediately descended to assigned altitude (1500 ft MSL) and turned right to correct course deviation. We were nearly overhead teb and were preparing to circle east of the field to enter left traffic (downwind/base) to runway 19. It was not the place nor time to conduct training. Instead, increased discipline toward keeping a sterile cockpit may have minimized distrs during the approach phase. In the future, I will fly as I train and will suggest that training be conducted during training flts and not during normal business operations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HS125-700 FO ALLOWS ACFT TO WANDER ON FINAL APCH, WHICH RESULTED IN GOING ABOVE ASSIGNED ALT AND NOT STAYING ON THE PUBLISHED APCH COURSE.
Narrative: VOR/DME-A APCH INTO TEB, INSIDE CLIFO, WE NOTICED WE WERE APPROX 200 FT ABOVE ASSIGNED ALT AND APPROX 5-10 DEGS TO THE L OF COURSE. CAPT SUGGESTED FLYING APCH AT HIGHER AIRSPDS THAN NORMAL SO AS TO PROVIDE TRAINING AT OPERATING THE ACFT AT FASTER SPDS INSIDE THE CLASS B AIRSPACE. THE INCREASE IN SPD WAS ADMINISTERED AROUND THE MIDWAY POINT OF THE PUBLISHED APCH, IE, BTWN WANES AND JAYMO. AS FO, I WAS NOT USED TO FLYING THE PARTICULAR APCH AT SUCH FAST SPDS AND I WAS NOT TRAINED (PRIOR OR SINCE) TO FLY APCHS AT THE FASTER SPD. RETURNED TO INST SCAN AFTER VISUALLY SCANNING FOR TFC OUTSIDE THE ACFT. IMMEDIATELY DSNDED TO ASSIGNED ALT (1500 FT MSL) AND TURNED R TO CORRECT COURSE DEV. WE WERE NEARLY OVERHEAD TEB AND WERE PREPARING TO CIRCLE E OF THE FIELD TO ENTER L TFC (DOWNWIND/BASE) TO RWY 19. IT WAS NOT THE PLACE NOR TIME TO CONDUCT TRAINING. INSTEAD, INCREASED DISCIPLINE TOWARD KEEPING A STERILE COCKPIT MAY HAVE MINIMIZED DISTRS DURING THE APCH PHASE. IN THE FUTURE, I WILL FLY AS I TRAIN AND WILL SUGGEST THAT TRAINING BE CONDUCTED DURING TRAINING FLTS AND NOT DURING NORMAL BUSINESS OPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.