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Attributes | |
ACN | 540225 |
Time | |
Date | 200203 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ama.airport |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl single value : 37000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zab.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 17600 flight time type : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 540225 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | cabin event : passenger illness non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : 3-4 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Passenger Human Performance Company |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Passenger medical problem/radio procedures and equipment. Left abq on time, climbed to cruise altitude of FL370. First given RNAV direct lvs, then before reaching lvs, RNAV direct bum. Just after leveloff, the 'a' flight attendant called me on service interphone to report she had a '20ISH female passenger' who was reporting she had been bitten by a 'black widow spider' before coming aboard and was experiencing numbness in her hands and feet. I asked the flight attendant if she had the headset in the back so she could talk to air carrier medic. She replied that she did, and I told her to give me a min to set up my end so she could talk. I made sure the first officer was flying the aircraft and in charge of #1 radio, and I went off on #2 to get dispatch on line. We were at that time 109 NM DME north of ama. I had a devil of a time initiating contact with dispatch, as abq had gone below minimums in blowing dust and at least 4 aircraft were using frequency to discuss their contingency plans, in addition to the usual in-range and out/off calls for ama, lub and okc. When I finally got dispatch on frequency, they had to go initiate a call to air carrier medic and patch them into the fray. Then I had to get the flight attendant on the service interphone and try to coach her on her fist use of a radio. Air carrier medic was dropped out of the loop in there somewhere, and we were north of tulsa before I could coordination everyone onto the same sheet of music, by which time the passenger (who turned out to be a 'space cadet') decided she didn't have any problems anyway. We were very fortunate that the medical problem was not critical. Had it been, I would have been on the ground somewhere still trying to get air carrier medic in the loop, regardless of their professional opinion of the situation. If I can't get their input, what good is it to me? None. We had a perfectly operational system with the airphones on board, but was shelved for some reason. With the airphones, the flight attendants could deal directly with air carrier medic and all I had to do was coordination the divert if it became necessary. Now we have taken a leap backwards into prehistoric times, and I must attempt to contact dispatch, monitor the company frequency, train/coach the flight attendant on the use of a radio, monitor the ATC frequency and the first officer's handling of the aircraft and hope that air carrier medic can talk to the flight attendant so the passenger can get some help in a timely fashion. I am not impressed. To preclude this type of scenario from happening again, we need to either put dedicated telephones on the aircraft so the flight attendants can speak to air carrier medic in a manner with which they are familiar (and which would put dispatch just a call away from the cockpit crew), or we need to make additional transceivers available at each station on a discrete frequency that would be used only for air carrier medic. The other possible answer is to make ACARS available on each aircraft so the frequencys at each station could be used for essential voice traffic, such as air carrier medic calls. The divert instructions, WX, in-range and out/off calls wouldn't be there to clog the frequency then. As it stands right now, I would not want to be, and neither would I want a member of my family to be in need of medical assistance from air carrier medic while on board one of our aircraft. The current system we have chosen for maintaining access to their services is completely inadequate and, in my opinion, a waste of our money. Why pay many, many dollars to air carrier medical for their services if our equipment won't allow us to use their services? Please make available a system that is simple, easy to use, and that works. To do less is to jeopardize our passenger's safety and possibly our company's financial health.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737-300 CREW WAS NOT ABLE TO ESTABLISH COM WITH THE COMPANY CONTRACTED MEDICAL FACILITY REGARDING A PAX MEDICAL PROB.
Narrative: PAX MEDICAL PROB/RADIO PROCS AND EQUIP. LEFT ABQ ON TIME, CLBED TO CRUISE ALT OF FL370. FIRST GIVEN RNAV DIRECT LVS, THEN BEFORE REACHING LVS, RNAV DIRECT BUM. JUST AFTER LEVELOFF, THE 'A' FLT ATTENDANT CALLED ME ON SVC INTERPHONE TO RPT SHE HAD A '20ISH FEMALE PAX' WHO WAS RPTING SHE HAD BEEN BITTEN BY A 'BLACK WIDOW SPIDER' BEFORE COMING ABOARD AND WAS EXPERIENCING NUMBNESS IN HER HANDS AND FEET. I ASKED THE FLT ATTENDANT IF SHE HAD THE HEADSET IN THE BACK SO SHE COULD TALK TO ACR MEDIC. SHE REPLIED THAT SHE DID, AND I TOLD HER TO GIVE ME A MIN TO SET UP MY END SO SHE COULD TALK. I MADE SURE THE FO WAS FLYING THE ACFT AND IN CHARGE OF #1 RADIO, AND I WENT OFF ON #2 TO GET DISPATCH ON LINE. WE WERE AT THAT TIME 109 NM DME N OF AMA. I HAD A DEVIL OF A TIME INITIATING CONTACT WITH DISPATCH, AS ABQ HAD GONE BELOW MINIMUMS IN BLOWING DUST AND AT LEAST 4 ACFT WERE USING FREQ TO DISCUSS THEIR CONTINGENCY PLANS, IN ADDITION TO THE USUAL IN-RANGE AND OUT/OFF CALLS FOR AMA, LUB AND OKC. WHEN I FINALLY GOT DISPATCH ON FREQ, THEY HAD TO GO INITIATE A CALL TO ACR MEDIC AND PATCH THEM INTO THE FRAY. THEN I HAD TO GET THE FLT ATTENDANT ON THE SVC INTERPHONE AND TRY TO COACH HER ON HER FIST USE OF A RADIO. ACR MEDIC WAS DROPPED OUT OF THE LOOP IN THERE SOMEWHERE, AND WE WERE N OF TULSA BEFORE I COULD COORD EVERYONE ONTO THE SAME SHEET OF MUSIC, BY WHICH TIME THE PAX (WHO TURNED OUT TO BE A 'SPACE CADET') DECIDED SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBS ANYWAY. WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE THAT THE MEDICAL PROB WAS NOT CRITICAL. HAD IT BEEN, I WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE GND SOMEWHERE STILL TRYING TO GET ACR MEDIC IN THE LOOP, REGARDLESS OF THEIR PROFESSIONAL OPINION OF THE SIT. IF I CAN'T GET THEIR INPUT, WHAT GOOD IS IT TO ME? NONE. WE HAD A PERFECTLY OPERATIONAL SYS WITH THE AIRPHONES ON BOARD, BUT WAS SHELVED FOR SOME REASON. WITH THE AIRPHONES, THE FLT ATTENDANTS COULD DEAL DIRECTLY WITH ACR MEDIC AND ALL I HAD TO DO WAS COORD THE DIVERT IF IT BECAME NECESSARY. NOW WE HAVE TAKEN A LEAP BACKWARDS INTO PREHISTORIC TIMES, AND I MUST ATTEMPT TO CONTACT DISPATCH, MONITOR THE COMPANY FREQ, TRAIN/COACH THE FLT ATTENDANT ON THE USE OF A RADIO, MONITOR THE ATC FREQ AND THE FO'S HANDLING OF THE ACFT AND HOPE THAT ACR MEDIC CAN TALK TO THE FLT ATTENDANT SO THE PAX CAN GET SOME HELP IN A TIMELY FASHION. I AM NOT IMPRESSED. TO PRECLUDE THIS TYPE OF SCENARIO FROM HAPPENING AGAIN, WE NEED TO EITHER PUT DEDICATED TELEPHONES ON THE ACFT SO THE FLT ATTENDANTS CAN SPEAK TO ACR MEDIC IN A MANNER WITH WHICH THEY ARE FAMILIAR (AND WHICH WOULD PUT DISPATCH JUST A CALL AWAY FROM THE COCKPIT CREW), OR WE NEED TO MAKE ADDITIONAL TRANSCEIVERS AVAILABLE AT EACH STATION ON A DISCRETE FREQ THAT WOULD BE USED ONLY FOR ACR MEDIC. THE OTHER POSSIBLE ANSWER IS TO MAKE ACARS AVAILABLE ON EACH ACFT SO THE FREQS AT EACH STATION COULD BE USED FOR ESSENTIAL VOICE TFC, SUCH AS ACR MEDIC CALLS. THE DIVERT INSTRUCTIONS, WX, IN-RANGE AND OUT/OFF CALLS WOULDN'T BE THERE TO CLOG THE FREQ THEN. AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE, AND NEITHER WOULD I WANT A MEMBER OF MY FAMILY TO BE IN NEED OF MEDICAL ASSISTANCE FROM ACR MEDIC WHILE ON BOARD ONE OF OUR ACFT. THE CURRENT SYS WE HAVE CHOSEN FOR MAINTAINING ACCESS TO THEIR SVCS IS COMPLETELY INADEQUATE AND, IN MY OPINION, A WASTE OF OUR MONEY. WHY PAY MANY, MANY DOLLARS TO ACR MEDICAL FOR THEIR SVCS IF OUR EQUIP WON'T ALLOW US TO USE THEIR SVCS? PLEASE MAKE AVAILABLE A SYS THAT IS SIMPLE, EASY TO USE, AND THAT WORKS. TO DO LESS IS TO JEOPARDIZE OUR PAX'S SAFETY AND POSSIBLY OUR COMPANY'S FINANCIAL HEALTH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.